Originally posted by -Pr-
1 - That's not even true.
2 - Superman isn't in this thread.
1 - it is.
2 - never stopped me.
Originally posted by leonidas
isn't superman more of a state of mind at this point? in that sense, he's in every thread.... 😍
👆
Thank you, Leo.
Even when he isn't mentioned, you can feel his and his fanboys' presence.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Superman is a flying brick who always gets speedblitzed by Grundy who always loses to powerless humans in melee.Let that sink in.
It’s because Superman starts most fights as a pacifist, until you either annoy him to much, or you endangered innocents.
Let’s be honest with ourselves. 9/10 after a villain knocks Clark around for a awhile, Clark then become serious and he beats them pretty easily.
Originally posted by leonidas
Hey anyone know how long someone needs to be incapacitated for it to count as a forum win?
Good question. As far as I know, that part was never clear.
From google:
In most cases, a knockout lasts less than 10 seconds, after which the person regains consciousness. However, a bad knockout can last longer than a minute and even several minutes. The length of the knockout depends on the severity of the concussion and whether or not the brainstem was damaged.
Of course, we need to factor in that comics can be weird about it, too.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Good question. As far as I know, that part was never clear.From google:
In most cases, a knockout lasts less than 10 seconds, after which the person regains consciousness. However, a bad knockout can last longer than a minute and even several minutes. The length of the knockout depends on the severity of the concussion and whether or not the brainstem was damaged.
Of course, we need to factor in that comics can be weird about it, too.
Or fiction in general. In reality you don't get KOed and are out for hours and wake up with just a headache before being fine. I think it was being unconscious for even a few minutes could be a sign of serious brain damage or worse.
Correct. Jinzin, decade or two ago, was always reminding everyone on the basics of how a knockout works irl 😂
In comics, it can last anywhere from fraction of a second (flash-ko) to even hours, as you said. Or longer 😛
Which is fine, I guess, when the ko'd character has superhuman physicals, alien physiology, healing factor or some other power related to physical attributes.
But those extreme knockouts happen to everyone, even completely powerless heroes/villains.
So if mags hoists hulk in the air and controls his blood but hulk is constantly healing or fighting it would or wouldn’t count as an incapacitation win...? Because I’m having a hard time seeing how mags wins this without benefit of bfr though I’m more than willing to have someone convince me otherwise.
Originally posted by leonidas
So if mags hoists hulk in the air and controls his blood but hulk is constantly healing or fighting it would or wouldn’t count as an incapacitation win...? Because I’m having a hard time seeing how mags wins this without benefit of bfr though I’m more than willing to have someone convince me otherwise.
The Hulk isn't very versatile, but he has an extremely long record of dealing with those that are vastly more versatile than himself. Magneto would never be able to restrain the Hulk for a long period of time. I could see the effort of trying KOing him. Look at his classic days when he went up agack Sebastian Shaw. Shaw went at him on a physical level, and they were pretty much equals. The Hulk can hit at levels far greater than Shaw. Magneto's only hope would be to power hijack and turn the Hulk back into Banner if that's even possible for him to do. BFR is off, but in a comic it would be his best choice.
Originally posted by beatboks
I always thought it was for a 10 count like a boxing match
Originally posted by -Pr-
I've no hard rule on it, but my idea was always like a boxing ten count. But I mean, if you can choke someone out and they're unconscious, then i don't know.
What about incap'ing someone via other method?
Restraining, immobilizing, etc.?
Parker can spam webs so much, for example, that even characters who can tear it like paper will spend some time getting out of it, simply because it's so sticky and gets everywhere... 😖hifty:
Originally posted by leonidas
So if mags hoists hulk in the air and controls his blood but hulk is constantly healing or fighting it would or wouldn’t count as an incapacitation win...? Because I’m having a hard time seeing how mags wins this without benefit of bfr though I’m more than willing to have someone convince me otherwise.
I see it as an incapacitation win. Just like Spidey burying Juggy in concrete - he's still sentient, conscious, alive and digging his way out, but he's not harming Spidey.
If I fight a young boy, and hold him down - doesn't matter if he's still fighting back, or healing, I'm still controlling his limbs.
But yeah,all the responses for Hulk seem to boil down to 'he finds a way'.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Lmao at using Shaw as an example.
Yeah, Shaw's not the best example, not just because of the nature of his abilities, but because he lost, iirc.
Magneto can be clobbered, sure, but he does have many options to avoid that or prevent the opponent from doing that.
Even when writers reduce him to being the magnet-guy, he can still be incredibly creative with just his metal control.