Originally posted by Delta1938
For me the problem is how long does it need to be to count as a win? If they're immobilized you're winning. But winning isn't the same as having won. Should it be the same amount of time as how long it takes someone to get back for it to count as BFR?
no idea. but i think the case with the hulk here is different from ds's juggernaut example. jugg's powers don't continually escalate like hulk's do. i don't think it would be too long before hulk's strength simply exceeded mag's power. or maybe his blood adapts. i also don't know how it can be called an incapacitation when we don't even know how long someone needs to be incapacitated FOR to earn a win...? i don't see mags holding him for long--a minute? less? he can go full wb and just overwhelm mags with energy. i don't think anyone would say mags could contain wbh or deal easily with the energy hulk puts off. i think it's much more likely hulk would go full wb than there is of his losing via incapacitation. and unlike a bz where hulk was limited, there's no reason to prevent his going wb.
even staying short of that though, there is reason to think hulk might be able to overcome that type of control if he has time.
to me, an incapacitation means the enemy is prone, done, in a position where he/she/it can be killed. ww incapacitates with the lasso. the webbing would incapacitate SOME, but only delay others. i can't believe in all the time the forum's been around the rule has never been fleshed out clearly. not blaming anyone, it's just weird is all. shrug
