Hulk vs Cassandra Cain

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Speed of Mercury means nothing now, eh?

And if we want feats, she's ripping Amazos which were explicitly, according to narration, strong enough to take on the JLA on their own. Including Flash and WW.

But most importantly, let's not fall victim to Carver's usual goal moving. Pressure points work on Hulk, ESPECIALLY when backed up by enough super strength.

I wouldn't be too sure about the speed of mercury being above the speed of Hermes aka the one WW has. And a serious Flash. But other than that. All that you said is true. She has the strength and speed level needed for her preasure points to work.

She has the strength, speed, and, most importantly, the skills. She was the best h2h fighter on the planet before her upgrade, and now she has the Wisdom of Solomon, which the writer (at long last!!) acknowledges can be used to boost your fighting skill.

Nice of the writer to also acknowledge that users can amp their strikes with the Power of Zeus. Not usually seen when writing Shazam, so it was nice.

Now, would Cassandra amp her strikes? Well, as lightning isn't a base power of the Batfamily, and all her depictions show her with lightning, I'd say yes.

Then there is BFR.

preasure = combo of pleasure and pressure?

Only Nvr could've thought of something like that 😂

@Smurph...I never said it would work but what I did say is Hulk is faster.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Speed of Mercury means nothing now, eh?

And if we want feats, she's ripping Amazos which were explicitly, according to narration, strong enough to take on the JLA on their own. Including Flash and WW.

But most importantly, let's not fall victim to Carver's usual goal moving. Pressure points work on Hulk, ESPECIALLY when backed up by enough super strength.

Show me her speed fts. We are not assuming anything here. Someone getting Supermans power, we wouldn't use the low showing from the imposter against Superman.

She wasn't the only one fighting Amazo and Amazo isn't a good indication of speed (unless it's actually mentioned on panel). Hulk keeping up with Gladiator and Hyperion doesn't mean Hulk is FTL.

She won't use pressure points and it won't work.

Originally posted by carver9
Show me her speed fts. We are not assuming anything here. Someone getting Supermans power, we wouldn't use the low showing from the imposter against Superman.

She wasn't the only one fighting Amazo and Amazo isn't a good indication of speed (unless it's actually mentioned on panel). Hulk keeping up with Gladiator and Hyperion doesn't mean Hulk is FTL.

She won't use pressure points and it won't work.

Prove that it won't work.

Cassie's regular speed is pretty damn good, from what I recall.

I'm ancient enough to remember that time when a whole ocean of cum from Phil's penis flooded KMC when he beat Srank in a bz:

https://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=497150&pagenumber=1

Her speed is great but nowhere near Hulks best.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Prove that it won't work.

Cap and Tem tried and failed.

So iyo, Cassie is as strong as them? If Cap tries and fails to lift a plane (lol), would Hulk fail too?

Temugin succeeded, btw. Hulk was hurt by his strikes.

He was hurt but it didn't absolutely nothing in the end. She won't be able to even attempt that anys since Hulk is faster.

So Cap and Temugin are as strong and as fast as Shazam?

Originally posted by DantasKEdc
Savage Hulk vs Cassandra Cain (DCeased) with powers of Shazam

Cass doesn't need powers to beat Hulk.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Cassie's regular speed is pretty damn good, from what I recall.

I'm ancient enough to remember that time when a whole ocean of cum from Phil's penis flooded KMC when he beat Srank in a bz:

https://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=497150&pagenumber=1

It's so old you haven't even started centering your text.

I also had discovered thumbnails, and I wasn't about to give them up for simple links.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So Cap and Temugin are as strong and as fast as Shazam?

This isn't how we debate, lmmfao. Faster opponents get hit all of the time in comics (I learned this from someone). So you mentioning them hitting Hulk is irrelevant here.

Cap did 0 to Hulk and Tem used chi.

Originally posted by carver9
This isn't how we debate, lmmfao. Faster opponents get hit all of the time in comics (I learned this from someone). So you mentioning them hitting Hulk is irrelevant here.

Cap did 0 to Hulk and Tem used chi.

Wut?

Your logic is completely nonexistent, despite your pathetic attempts to dodge.

How strong was Temugin in that instance when he hurt Hulk? You saying 'he used chi' is a red herring. Did Valkyrie use chi? Did Warpath?

Let's say we give Cap WW level strength (maybe this will help you understand your bias). Would his attacks still do nothing?

My question still stands. Just because Cap failed to do something, doesn't mean someone with Shazam level strength would fail to do the same thing- maybe you're too stupid to understand that. Read my posts, stop, think about it, read it again, think, read again, then post.

If Cap fails to dent a metal wall with his punches, does that mean Hercules would fail too? Think about it

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Wut?

Your logic is completely nonexistent, despite your pathetic attempts to dodge.

How strong was Temugin in that instance when he hurt Hulk? You saying 'he used chi' is a red herring. Did Valkyrie use chi? Did Warpath?

Let's say we give Cap WW level strength (maybe this will help you understand your bias). Would his attacks still do nothing?

My question still stands. Just because Cap failed to do something, doesn't mean someone with Shazam level strength would fail to do the same thing- maybe you're too stupid to understand that. Read my posts, stop, think about it, read it again, think, read again, then post.

If Cap fails to dent a metal wall with his punches, does that mean Hercules would fail too? Think about it

Tem doesn't need strength since he is Chi amping his attacks. Look at the scene, please. Chi is treated like magic in Marvel AND DC. Warpath used vibranium. Energy absorbing weapons. Post the Val scene.

I'm not answering the Wonder Woman question. She isn't in this thread.

I get what you are saying but what I'm mentioning is, the examples you gave doesn't match up with your argument, that's all.

Lmao.

Ok, we have a wall.

Cap punches it. Nothing happens.

Temugin punches it. It dents.

Valkyrie punches it. It smashes.

Warpath stabs it (lol at you grasping at straws now.....the point here is that his muscles were locked up by the stabs) - it smashes.

Now, Hercules punches this same wall. Your argument is that because Cap punched it and nothing happened, and when Temugin punched it all that happened was that it got dented with no real damage, if Hercules punches it nothing will happen, is stupid.