Hulk vs Cassandra Cain

Wonder Man did beat Rulk with the Million Dollar Dream hold stolen from Ted DiBiase.

WBN choked the Savage Hulk out with a hold of his own.

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Hulk is a tough case, because his nigh-invulnerability, regen and rather unique physiology in general that make him ignore most attacks.

But Cassie not only has her extreme skill and body-reading ability here, she also has the super-strength, super-speed and WoS.

And since it's a forum discussion, hard not to bring up the possibility of spam-attacks.

It's not some anti-Hulk thing; people do the same in Spider-Man ("omfg, his webs stopped a tsunami!!!!!!"😉 or Cyclops ("GOML Blast for the win!!!!!!"😉 threads.

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And, as admitted several times already, it's all based on speculation and what we know about Cassie and the Shazam powerset... there's little more to work with, frankly, given how brief that power-up was.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Wonder Man did beat Rulk with the Million Dollar Dream hold stolen from Ted DiBiase.

WBN choked the Savage Hulk out with a hold of his own.

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Hulk is a tough case, because his nigh-invulnerability, regen and rather unique physiology in general that make him ignore most attacks.

But Cassie not only has her extreme skill and body-reading ability here, she also has the super-strength, super-speed and WoS.

And since it's a forum discussion, hard not to bring up the possibility of spam-attacks.

It's not some anti-Hulk thing; people do the same in Spider-Man ("omfg, his webs stopped a tsunami!!!!!!"😉 or Cyclops ("GOML Blast for the win!!!!!!"😉 threads.

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And, as admitted several times already, it's all based on speculation and what we know about Cassie and the Shazam powerset... there's little more to work with, frankly, given how brief that power-up was.

Alright, but at first OP should determine which one exact version of Cassandra Cain he use here. If it's Cassandra with power ups, then okay, she could win. If it's just a normal Cassandra without power ups, therefore in my opinion she won't really win under that circumstances, because even with all of her agility, speed and skills, it hardly would work against Hulk.

OP said it's Cassandra with the powers of Shazam.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
OP said it's Cassandra with the powers of Shazam.

Ah, my bad. Didn't noticed it.

Originally posted by Alex_Ferrana
Alright, but at first OP should determine which one exact version of Cassandra Cain he use here. If it's Cassandra with power ups, then okay, she could win. If it's just a normal Cassandra without power ups, therefore in my opinion she won't really win under that circumstances, because even with all of her agility, speed and skills, it hardly would work against Hulk.

It's definitely not a normal Cassie.

Read the original post again:

Originally posted by DantasKEdc
Savage Hulk vs Cassandra Cain (DCeased) with powers of Shazam

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Originally posted by Alex_Ferrana
Ah, my bad. Didn't noticed it.

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While this forum is biased against the Hulk, it doesn't mean we believe a street girl could pummel him senseless, lol.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
It's definitely not a normal Cassie.

Read the original post again:

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While this forum is biased against the Hulk, it doesn't mean we believe a street girl could pummel him senseless, lol.

Speak for yourself. 😤😤😤

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

While this forum is biased against the Hulk, it doesn't mean we believe a street girl could pummel him senseless, lol.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85

Carver once more, however, not understanding that nobody hates Hulk, we only dislike Carver lol.

Question about Cass's normal power set:

She sidestepped bullets like she was from The Matrix, had precog nearly on a peak Spidey level, yet struggled with that meta in a skirt.

So my question is how fast is that meta? Batman beat her easy, and Cass cold KO'd her when she was hallucinating, yet could never manage her normally.

Thinking PIS, because she didn't seem anything special otherwise.

Cassie still makes rookie mistakes and has a habit depending on her body-reading ability too much.

Her potential aside, she's just a brainwashed kid trying to fight her programming and learn how to live a "normal" life in a batcave full of other kids.

Slade and Joker exploited that, too.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Cassie still makes rookie mistakes and has a habit depending on her body-reading ability too much.

Her potential aside, she's just a brainwashed kid trying to fight her programming and learn how to live a "normal" life in a batcave full of other kids.

Slade and Joker exploited that, too.

You might appreciate this:

https://static1.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Batgirl-Superboy-friends.jpg?q=50&fit=crop&w=1400&dpr=1.5

"You still want to make out?"

"No."

"That's a relief!"

😂

I have no words.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Cassie still makes rookie mistakes and has a habit depending on her body-reading ability too much.

Her potential aside, she's just a brainwashed kid trying to fight her programming and learn how to live a "normal" life in a batcave full of other kids.

Slade and Joker exploited that, too.

Plus, even with all of her skills and abilities, she was bested by Batman in a sparring match, overwhelmed by Red Hood and even Nightwing schooled her. And also, Cassie struggled with Shiva (her mother) and with her daddy David Cain (yes, she still beaten him, but at first he got the upperhand and Cassie defeated him only when she snapped and unleashed herself).

Which is why the Wisdom of Solomon is so deadly here.

It amps a kid like Billy Batson to Cap Marvel levels, imagine what levels a trained killer would do with those powers.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Which is why the Wisdom of Solomon is so deadly here.

It amps a kid like Billy Batson to Cap Marvel levels, imagine what levels a trained killer would do with those powers.

Unlike Adam, the wisdom also stopped him from revealing his identity to the JSA even though he wanted to (Why he couldn't simply tell them as Billy Batson is a mystery)

Meaning Shazam may have imposed a morality lock. That or the source of his power exerts some control towards the Paragon side.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm not answering the Wonder Woman question. She isn't in this thread.

Let me fix that for you.

Originally posted by carver9
Answering that will utterly expose me and I'm a coward so I'll pretend the analogy is irrelevant.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Valkyrie knocked him out with pressure points

Originally posted by Stoic
Do we use the lows, or the highs here? Hmmmm.

Is it actually a low showing? All the examples I've seen trying to defend Hulk from pressure points are from opponents weaker than Valkyrie.

Didn't Cap successfully use pressure points on Hulk?

Originally posted by cdtm
Didn't Cap successfully use pressure points on Hulk?

Yes and no.

Did a good job initially with tossing him out of Rick's apartment, but failed to KO him when going for the neck spot.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yes and no.

Did a good job initially with tossing him out of Rick's apartment, but failed to KO him when going for the neck spot.

So they effected Hulk but not a KO?

No effect at all, IIRC.