Originally posted by Psychotron
That's not how it workd at all. You would be using your rear delts, which are generally not that strong.
Well, dunno what to tell you. I had a guy who used to work as a professional bodyguard show it to me in person and the technique was pretty effective. The motion involved pulling back with not just your arms but most of your upper body, bringing your shoulder blades together.
Anyway, you and I already had this discussion not too long ago (in the Vision vs Hulk thread IIRC) and I posted the article where the Russos explained the scene. Obviously, people are free to discount what they said, but I'm going to stick with their explanation.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
IMO, if anyone jobbed there it was Carol. She can fly through Thanos' ship and destroy it but once she manages to gain the upper hand, she just strikes a pose in midair and basically waits for him to punch her away, which takes like 5 seconds total during which time she does nothing.
I wouldnt call that jobbing, because the scene didnt make Thanos look better than her.
That I would call more CIS or PIS.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
I wouldnt call that jobbing, because the scene didnt make Thanos look better than her.That I would call more CIS or PIS.
Eh, I suppose.
On a somewhat related note, Captain Marvel haters really get triggered if you point out that she technically saved the universe when she interrupted Thanos' first Endgame Snap attempt. 😄
Originally posted by FrothByte
Well if we're bringing in the Netflix shows then I'm pretty sure Ironfist gets top spot for most hated.
To be fair to Danny, the character never had a chance. The hate started the moment Finn Jones was cast instead of an Asian actor, long before we'd actually seen anything from the show. Now, granted the depiction was not very good (other than his guest appearance in LC S2), but from an objective standpoint Trish is way worse. She's a manipulative, murdering sociopath with virtually zero redeeming characteristics. Danny is just kind of a whiny hothead.
Originally posted by TheVaultDwellerTBH I never watched the Iron Fist show since I heard nothing but bad things about it.
To be fair to Danny, the character never had a chance. The hate started the moment Finn Jones was cast instead of an Asian actor, long before we'd actually seen anything from the show. Now, granted the depiction was not very good (other than his guest appearance in LC S2), but from an objective standpoint Trish is way worse. She's a manipulative, murdering sociopath with virtually zero redeeming characteristics. Danny is just kind of a whiny hothead.
I did watch defenders though, and Danny came across as pretty likable in that. Maybe they toned him down, but I like him at the moment.
Originally posted by Arachnid1
TBH I never watched the Iron Fist show since I heard nothing but bad things about it.I did watch defenders though, and Danny came across as pretty likable in that. Maybe they toned him down, but I like him at the moment.
Well, neither season of Iron Fist is particularly good, but they're also not as bad as a lot of people make them out to be. And they're both better than Jessica Jones S2, which is the worst season of a show of any of the Netflix Marvel properties IMO. Punisher S2 also sucked balls IMO.
Originally posted by TheVaultDwellerAgreed on all points other than Iron Fist since I haven't seen it. I may have to give it a try if it's at least better than Jones and Punisher S2. I was super disappointed in Punisher since season 1 was up there with Daredevils best IMO. What a waste.
Well, neither season of Iron Fist is particularly good, but they're also not as bad as a lot of people make them out to be. And they're both better than Jessica Jones S2, which is the worst season of a show of any of the Netflix Marvel properties IMO. Punisher S2 also sucked balls IMO.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
To be fair to Danny, the character never had a chance. The hate started the moment Finn Jones was cast instead of an Asian actor, long before we'd actually seen anything from the show. Now, granted the depiction was not very good (other than his guest appearance in LC S2), but from an objective standpoint Trish is way worse. She's a manipulative, murdering sociopath with virtually zero redeeming characteristics. Danny is just kind of a whiny hothead.
This always bothered me. People were mad that Iron Fist was a rich white guy who got stranded in Asia and learned Kung-Fu in the show? When that's his comic origin? Iron Fist is not an Asian man, and him being a rich white kid is a big part of his backstory. So why would he not be that?
Jones was awful though. Poor acting, almost no life or flair in his martial arts. He got slightly better later on, but not enough to save IF.
Originally posted by Arachnid1
Agreed on all points other than Iron Fist since I haven't seen it. I may have to give it a try if it's at least better than Jones and Punisher S2. I was super disappointed in Punisher since season 1 was up there with Daredevils best IMO. What a waste.
Well, if you have nothing else to watch and have some free time, maybe give the first episode or two of Iron Fist a try. Don't expect too much though. It's better than The Punisher S2 and Jessica Jones S2, but that's a pretty low bar. It's definitely nowhere near Daredevil. I will say that S2 of Iron Fist is better than S1.
Originally posted by KingD19
This always bothered me. People were mad that Iron Fist was a rich white guy who got stranded in Asia and learned Kung-Fu in the show? When that's his comic origin? Iron Fist is not an Asian man, and him being a rich white kid is a big part of his backstory. So why would he not be that?Jones was awful though. Poor acting, almost no life or flair in his martial arts. He got slightly better later on, but not enough to save IF.
Well, the martial arts isn't really Finn's fault IMO. The filming was extremely rushed (especially for S1) and according to sources behind the scenes there were instances where they literally taught Finn the choreography 20 minutes before they started filming the sequences. So, they basically set him an impossible task, because no one can pick up years worth of technique and finesse in less than half an hour.
But yeah, it was ridiculous. They wanted to completely change the character and his backstory. Essentially just take the name and powers from the comics and scrap everything else. And it got so bad that he had to quit social media for a while because of all the hate and harassment he got simply for being cast as Danny.
Don't get me wrong. I don't blame him for all the problems, but failing at an impossible task is still failing if that makes sense. Like I get he was put in a very unfair position, and to judge him when knowing the full context is bad. But the end result itself is bad, and that's undeniable. Like I know EA is a shit company and ruined several games with their meddling, but the games companies that make the games still made a bad game.
But changing Iron Fist to Shang Chi w/ a fist like unto iron isn't the way to go. Just like it would be stupid if Black Panther was suddenly a white guy from Boston.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Well, if you have nothing else to watch and have some free time, maybe give the first episode or two of Iron Fist a try. Don't expect too much though. It's better than The Punisher S2 and Jessica Jones S2, but that's a pretty low bar. It's definitely nowhere near Daredevil. I will say that S2 of Iron Fist is better than S1.Well, the martial arts isn't really Finn's fault IMO. The filming was extremely rushed (especially for S1) and according to sources behind the scenes there were instances where they literally taught Finn the choreography 20 minutes before they started filming the sequences. So, they basically set him an impossible task, because no one can pick up years worth of technique and finesse in less than half an hour.
But yeah, it was ridiculous. They wanted to completely change the character and his backstory. Essentially just take the name and powers from the comics and scrap everything else. And it got so bad that he had to quit social media for a while because of all the hate and harassment he got simply for being cast as Danny.
He shouldn't get blamed for all the issues with the fight choreography but his lack of athleticism didn't help either. A lot of the moves he was pulling was just pure cringey to look at and they weren't even difficult moves. And even in S2 when he put in a lot of time to learn martial arts, he still looked pretty crappy for movie standards. He's just not an athletic guy. I don't blame him, but I do think he was seriously miscast.