All-Star Superman Throws His Key (Part II)...

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Eh, I thought bullets DO explode objects.

Google what happens when you shoot watermelons, for example.

Except he isn't throwing it at a watermelon. He is throwing it at people. I have shot almost a dozen people and never once have they exploded.

The closest to exploding we can get is a .50 cal through a human head. And the skin around the majority of the face almost always stays intact. The force of the bullet drags the brain, and peices of bone out of the exit wound though.

Watermelons are highly pressurized and have zero openings and yeah our circulatory system is highly pressurized (why blood sprays and does not just dribble out when a major artery is hit) the rest of us is not

Force, of course, being equal to mass times acceleration.

Now imagine how much force this key will be bringing. Don't make me sic H1 on you.

Originally posted by SquallX
Saying it bounces off Hulk is ludicrous.

This same Superman got jacked up when he was tossed at the moon. WB Hulk's indirect punch casually caused far more damage. We see what we want.

Hulk isn't no selling the key. you could argue he regenerates from the damage it causes, but acting like he has enough piercing durability to tank it outright is just foolish.

Originally posted by Galan007
He casually pressed upwards of 200 quintillion tons with one arm. Even though the key is extremely heavy, it's still 400 TRILLION times lighter than the aforementioned.

So my guess is... Really f*cking fast. 😛

Originally posted by Juntai
Picked it up . . like a key. ..

Look how that retard grabs it. No one holds a key like that.

Originally posted by Stoic
This same Superman got jacked up when he was tossed at the moon. WB Hulk's indirect punch casually caused far more damage. We see what we want.

Originally posted by One Big Mob
No he didn't.

Look how that retard grabs it. No one holds a key like that.

😆

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Force, of course, being equal to mass times acceleration.

Now imagine how much force this key will be bringing. Don't make me sic H1 on you.

You can sic whoever you want on me. I am still right.

We are discussing what happens to a human body when hit with a small object.

I used actual human bodies as a reference.

You used....a watermelon.

So nobody else in all star dc can lift half a million tons? Weak sauce.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
You can sic whoever you want on me. I am still right.

We are discussing what happens to a human body when hit with a small object.

I used actual human bodies as a reference.

You used....a watermelon.

So nobody else in all star dc can lift half a million tons? Weak sauce.

Are you saying that the key would just punch through, assuming it doesn't hit any major arteries?

And it's the finger strength that's key (lol) here.

It just seems like our analogies and life experiences are equally valid.

I've never shot a bullet through a guy, let alone make then explode. But you've never thrown a 0.5million ton key through a person before either, so....

Well, to be honest neither one are probably very valid as we are using beings that have neither the consistency of a watermelon or a human being outside of Cap. We are just arguing semantics. I think we both agree nobody is tanking this and at the very least nobody is going to be able to continue fighting after they get hit.

would it do more damage than this?

https://www.reddit.com/r/busterfeats/comments/7g36s2/comics_planet_superman_imps_the_shadow_moon_dc/

Originally posted by leonidas
would it do more damage than this?

https://www.reddit.com/r/busterfeats/comments/7g36s2/comics_planet_superman_imps_the_shadow_moon_dc/

Hard to say. Comics being comics, piercing damage (as delivered by a 1/2million ton key thrown at you at extreme speeds) is different from whatever damage punching a magical moon gives out.

relatively speaking, superman could be seen as a piercing object, given the size of the moon. assuming he's very close to light speed when he hits his mass may even exceed the mass of the key. if both are near light speed they should hit with roughly the same energy.

but superman's impact on the moon is very different from flash's IMP on the martian. comics physics is unreliable at best. my guess would be if you think they could survive planet-busting power, they could probably take the shot from the key. a hole would be created in all of them except the shield (maybe) but the energy released from the contact would be similar to the moon shot--or the IMP from flash. at least based on what comics have shown regarding objects moving close to light speed. assuming he can throw it that fast....

Superman is piercing the moon, but relative to HIM, the damage is blunt force, surely.

THE KEY is piercing the TARGET, but relative to IT, the damage is blunt force, surely.

shrug

i stand by my it's really almost impossible to say, but based on how dc appears to handle this type of thing, i think the best we can do is look at IMP's--assuming you think he can throw the key that fast.

Originally posted by leonidas
THE KEY is piercing the TARGET, but relative to IT, the damage is blunt force, surely.

shrug

i stand by my it's really almost impossible to say, but based on how dc appears to handle this type of thing, i think the best we can do is look at IMP's--assuming you think he can throw the key that fast.

Yeah.

So the target (i.e. Wolverine or Glads) is suffering piercing damage, whilst the key is 'suffering' blunt force.

So we need to see the various characters' piercing damage, right?

the key would pass through each though, we know that. it's the REST of the damage--the energy imparted in its passing--that we need to consider. impossible to really say how much energy that would be, but assuming it's moving near light speed, it would be something similar to the moon shot. or flash's punch imo.

so, if we assume it pierces each, THEN releases planet busting force...

logan could deal with the puncture--he'd be blown to atoms from the energy release.

cap's shield would absorb some of the blow, maybe deflect it, maybe be blown apart, but no chance cap survives the energy release.

glads MIGHT be able to heal from the puncture, (not sure about his healing) but i don't think he could withstand the energy release.

wbh would get punctured and heal instantly. he could handle the energy release imo.

no real idea about thor.

odin is weird--he'd be punctured for sure. if he were allowed to know what was coming i think he'd handle it. otherwise i could see him being blown apart. 'gods' have some weird showings.

knull--assuming he's at full power, he'd be punctured but he'd survive the energy release imo.

again, that's all just based on what we've seen of IMP-like attacks in dc. i may have missed some examples though. /shrug