All-Star Superman Throws His Key (Part II)...

Started by MrMind4 pages

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
You are soooo on myyyy nuts wooooowwww

Get off em bro. If you don't like someone's comment, just don't say anything like the rest of the adults do.

but....everything you type makes you sound so desperate

Originally posted by Galan007
I've mentioned this already, but in Superman's hands, the key would feel lighter than you or I holding a single grain of rice... but it's still a 500,000 ton object being thrown by a guy who can casually press 400 TRILLION times its weight.

So while it's difficult to calc-out an exact speed that Supes could potentially throw the key, it would still be... absurdly fast.

worse lol, try holding 400 trillion rice grains

Kinda like you desperately clinging to my ball hairs?

Anyway, after magnons post, I am changing my stance to none survive this and going a little further, I honestly don't see any of them regenerating from this either. Unless they can regenerate from atoms?

Odin is the only one who eventually comes back as he has died multiple times and came back.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Kinda like you desperately clinging to my ball hairs?

Anyway, after magnons post, I am changing my stance to none survive this and going a little further, I honestly don't see any of them regenerating from this either. Unless they can regenerate from atoms?

Odin is the only one who eventually comes back as he has died multiple times and came back.

I suggest just putting him on Ignore. He rarely has anything worthwhile to say even when he's sober.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Kinda like you desperately clinging to my ball hairs?

Anyway, after magnons post, I am changing my stance to none survive this and going a little further, I honestly don't see any of them regenerating from this either. Unless they can regenerate from atoms?

Odin is the only one who eventually comes back as he has died multiple times and came back.

why are you so set on insults, when I'm trying to help you with your Asperger

Originally posted by MrMind
why are you so set on insults, when I'm trying to help you with your Asperger

Wrote a song for ya. Like to hear it? Here it goes.

"Up from the depths, fourty stories high
Is a giant rusty dick Mr. Mind covets with his eyes
He grabs it,licks it,sticks it in between his thighs
Makes another Superman match and everybody cries
Then he gets lockjaw from chewing rusty dicks and wishes he could die"

Freestyle. Like it? Dont give a ****. Have a good day sir.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Wrote a song for ya. Like to hear it? Here it goes.

"Up from the depths, fourty stories high
Is a giant rusty dick Mr. Mind covets with his eyes
He grabs it,licks it,sticks it in between his thighs
Makes another Superman match and everybody cries
Then he gets lockjaw from chewing rusty dicks and wishes he could die"

Freestyle. Like it? Dont give a ****. Have a good day sir.

tell me, how long did it take to write this asperger masterpiece? what does your parents think about your basement freestyle rapping? are you related to insane titan by any chance?

Originally posted by Delta1938
I suggest just putting him on Ignore. He rarely has anything worthwhile to say even when he's sober.

I'm surprised you can still type what with your gout problem and failing liver

Uuuummmm... what is going on in here

Originally posted by Magnon
The Key would be highly unstable against phase transition. Dwarf star matter can only exist as dwarf star matter (technically, this is [B]electron-degenerate matter) within the enormous gravitational field of a dwarf star. Remove a key-sized chunk of it and bring it to a 1-atm environment, and it would explosively return back to "normal" state of matter. I don't know which mechanism is keeping the Key stable but I'm sure if Superman threw it at someone at full strength, this mechanism would fail, triggering the phase transition.

Some physics follows.

We aim to calculate the electron-degeneracy pressure active within the Key. Electrons are fermions and obey the Pauli exclusion principle: when matter is compressed into dwarf-star densities, its electrons experience a repulsive quantum effect, which then produces an extremely high pressure. It is, in fact, this pressure that prevents a white dwarf star from collapsing further into a neutron star or black hole.

In a dwarf star, gravity and electron-degeneracy pressure are in balance. But in a key-sized piece of dwarf star material, self-gravity is insignificant next to this pressure (I can show the math, upon request), so that as soon as the "mystery mechanism" I referred to above fails, the key will detonate with extreme violence.

The electron degeneracy pressure P_e is given by:

Here, h_bar is the reduced Planck's constant and m_e the electron mass, which are well-known physical constants. In order to calculate P_e, we thus need electron number density ρ_e within the key. The mass of the key is 4.5E8 kg, which means that it contains approximately 2.7E35 nucleons. There are approximately 2 nucleons for each electron in dwarf star material, yielding 1.35E35 electrons in this case. The volume of the key is about 1E-6 m^3. Thus

ρ_e = 1.35E41 electrons / cubic meter.

Plugging this in the expression for P_e yields:

P_e = 8.3E30 pascals.

This is a truly ridiculous outward pressure. Assuming the surface area of the Key is 6E-4 m^2, this corresponds to an outward force of 5E27 newtons. This is equivalent to the weight of 5E26 kilograms under standard gravity, i.e. the weight of approximately 80 Earths.

So, once the Key has penetrated its hapless target, it likely detonates with the force equal to the weight of 80 Earths. This would erase every single being on the OP's list.

FURTHER READING:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degenerate_matter
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_degeneracy_pressure
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pauli_exclusion_principle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nucleon [/B]


Originally posted by h1a8
Depends on how fast he can throw the key. It looks like he's lifting it casually from the scan.

I could lowball calculate how fast based off him one arm lifting 200 quintillion tons (1.78e24 newtons).

Force = mass*acceleration = 0.5 x mass x velocity^2/(throwing distance)

Or

velocity = sqrt (2 x throwing distance x force /mass)

mass = 500,000 tons or 4.5e8 kg
throwing distance = 1 meter (lowball estimate)
force = 200 quintillion tons or 1.77e24 newtons (lowball estimate since that wasn't Superman max)

So lowball velocity = sqrt ( 2 x 1 x 1.77e24/4.5e8) meters/second
= 8.8e7 m/s

Now for some perspective.

Kinetic energy = 0.5 x mass x velocity^2 = 0.5 x 4.5e8 x (8.8e7) ^2 joules
Or 1.7e24 J
How significant is that?

Well
1 megaton bomb = 4.18e15 joules of energy

So the kinetic energy of the key would be at least 1.7e24/4.18e15
or equivalent to a 4e8 megaton bomb.
That's a 400 million megaton bomb!

The average nuclear warhead yield is about 1 megaton.

The largest nuclear bomb yield ever tested was a 50 megaton bomb.
That's 8 million times (or of) the most powerful nuclear bomb(s) ever tested.
And thats not even considering the cutting (penetrating) pressure.
If it doesn't penetrate or pass through (still imparting much energy inside the character) then it would produce ALL the energy stated above on the character.

Its fair to say that all these characters would be dead EXCEPT possibly WBH.

Check my math. Did things quickly.


👆 Astounding work. And I really like these ideas. I mean I know comics dont always comply with RL science. But I really like the thought that Superman throws a key that will detonate and generate enough force that equals to 400 million megaton bomb or 80 earths 😖hifty: