Superboy Prime vs universe 616

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
They didnt write him above DMs level.

You have a theme of DM explicitly through the latter stages of Death Metal confirming he has his power tied up in his schemes and stating he doesnt want to divert any to properly deal with SBP.

THAT is a feasible explanation for why SBP was able to engage him as successfully as he did.

He has NEVER demonstrated such prowess against a being of such a level (Anti Monitor was severely weakened and SBP just dealt the finishing blow so dont even try it lol )

If we arent dealing with a Darkest Knight that was hampered then the only other option is it was PIS.

Regardless as ive said in these last couple pages, Superboy Prime conclusively demonstrated he was not on DKs level as the power backlash that engulfed them both left SBP dead/comatose whilst DK was unfazed, had an epic battle with Wonder Woman straight afterwards and was still confldent he could go on to beat multiple Perpetua level beings thereby demonstrating a power level WAY beyond Superboy Prime.

Logic and objectivity make all the difference 🙂

*DK

When im out here giving hands to all opponents i can occasionally make mistakes 🙂

Originally posted by Diesldude
You want a yes and no answer right? Here I’ll give it to you..

Yes.
That’s my answer and I’ll throw you some more bits...

Yes he has a beginning.. Now I can tell you why your “if yes, then...” Is wrong, actually I did already in a couple of responses to you. You still didn’t pick up on it because you don’t know who prime is and where he came from. If you did, you would know why DK could NOT do what your intending and why nobody in marvel can either. I’ll explain it to you and your friend GS because he doesn’t get it either.

Is prime from marvel? If the battle is in marvel those beings don’t have access to dc let alone earth prime. If they did and go there to stop prime, what happens? Self bfr. You just outted your best/only shot in a self bfr.

In these battles its an assumption that everyone's canon abilities just work.

If you want to be pedantic then once he enters Marvel he would be stepping on to the Marvel timeline so chronal and reality manipulation of Marvel time and space would very much work on him. 🙂

He could be frozen in a perpetual time loop or he could be subject to a localized manipulation and aged to dust. 😉

YOU fired your last/best shot and it ended up blank.

You did your best clapping

i am curious to see what happens with prime going forward. his ending is obviously terribly ambiguous. i think it's clear that he was intended to be portrayed as dying at the end--otherwise the redemptive power is weakened tremendously--but it also seems clear dc wants us to think that his story may not yet be done. if he returns some time, it will be interesting to see what he is. hopefully he doesn't come back as a villain again because that would also damage his redemption. but, with the way dc is going, i don't think anything they did with him would surprise me.

Originally posted by leonidas
i am curious to see what happens with prime going forward. his ending is obviously terribly ambiguous. i think it's clear that he was intended to be portrayed as dying at the end--otherwise the redemptive power is weakened tremendously--but it also seems clear dc wants us to think that his story may not yet be done. if he returns some time, it will be interesting to see what he is. hopefully he doesn't come back as a villain again because that would also damage his redemption. but, with the way dc is going, i don't think anything they did with him would surprise me.

Agreed 100%.

It was clearly a redemptive sacrifice, however it was left ambiguous so he could perhaps be used again in the future.

I think they should keep him bad. We have too man good Supermen types around 🙂

Originally posted by leonidas
i am curious to see what happens with prime going forward. his ending is obviously terribly ambiguous. i think it's clear that he was intended to be portrayed as dying at the end--otherwise the redemptive power is weakened tremendously--but it also seems clear dc wants us to think that his story may not yet be done. if he returns some time, it will be interesting to see what he is. hopefully he doesn't come back as a villain again because that would also damage his redemption. but, with the way dc is going, i don't think anything they did with him would surprise me.

Imo I just think Primes universe is either
1. Set outside of the Multiverse (this was hinted at)
2. He died and he was in whatever afterlife he was in

We will eventually find out. 1 thing is for certain, he breaks a lot of rules

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
In these battles its an assumption that everyone's canon abilities just work.

If you want to be pedantic then once he enters Marvel he would be stepping on to the Marvel timeline so chronal and reality manipulation of Marvel time and space would very much work on him. 🙂

He could be frozen in a perpetual time loop or he could be subject to a localized manipulation and aged to dust. 😉

[B]YOU fired your last/best shot and it ended up blank.

You did your best clapping [/B]

Originally posted by xJLxKing
We will see

Imo I just think Primes universe is either
1. Set outside of the Multiverse (this was hinted at)
2. He died and he was in whatever afterlife he was in

We will eventually find out. 1 thing is for certain, he breaks a lot of rules

👆

Gs, prime himself shut down your argument. You lost days ago and all you’re doing is trolling. Why? For so carver9 can stroke you some more? Man have someone post carver lips. You’ll end up with a minor stain on your pc but at least you will be satisfied, well until the next time you pop that

Originally posted by Diesldude
prove prime can be contained in a time loop. I had asked you to stop being a pedantic but you keep proving that you can’t help yourself.

Prime is subject to the passage of time as demonstrated by the existence of Time Trapper:

https://imgur.com/lxVdKqS

Conclusive proof he ages and is not beyond time and space.

Prime is affected by the laws of space/time as demonstrated by his connection with Time Trapper resulting in the laws of space/time shunting him back helplessly to Earth Prime in a depowered state:

https://imgur.com/rFU30y0

https://imgur.com/EfnWTwL

So Prime conclusively is subject to the laws of space/time so chronal/reality manipulation is a viable option.

Thatll be all 🙂

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Prime is subject to the passage of time as demonstrated by the existence of Time Trapper:

https://imgur.com/lxVdKqS

Conclusive proof he ages and is not beyond time and space.

Prime is affected by the laws of space/time as demonstrated by his connection with Time Trapper resulting in the laws of space/time shunting him back helplessly to Earth Prime in a depowered state:

https://imgur.com/rFU30y0

https://imgur.com/EfnWTwL

So Prime conclusively is subject to the laws of space/time so chronal/reality manipulation is a viable option.

Thatll be all 🙂

And where does marvel get another prime for to perform a cosmic reset?

Originally posted by Diesldude
smh so he looks older then he can aged? How do you know if he didn’t allow himself to look older? Or he wants to look this way to show prime that he’s young. Prove that it was time, something he has complete mastery over made him look like that? What a reach. Smh. There is no definitive proof that he looks this way becuase of age and time. And how far has that time trapper lived? Lifetime of a universe? Multiple universes? Who can age prime more than the age of the universe before he kicks their ass?

And where does marvel get another prime for to perform a cosmic reset?

Its confirmed on panel that Time Trapper is an aged Prime. He says it himself.
All of that other nonsense you spouted you would have to provide evidence that its a result of something else. Thats your claim. Im just going by whats stated in the comic. Hes a future older Prime.

The Legion of Superheroes operate in the 31st century so that shows hes long lived at least but not immortal my Superfriend 🙁

A chronal manipulator could do a localized time manipulation to age prime 100s of thousands of years in moments and then use him as fertilizer. 🙂

He did after all look about 50 years old after just 10,000 years 😆

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Its confirmed on panel that Time Trapper is an aged Prime. He says it himself.
All of that other nonsense you spouted you would have to provide evidence that its a result of something else. Thats your claim. Im just going by whats stated in the comic. Hes a future older Prime.

The Legion of Superheroes operate in the 31st century so that shows hes long lived at least but not immortal my Superfriend 🙁

A chronal manipulator could do a localized time manipulation to age prime 100s of thousands of years in moments and then use him as fertilizer. 🙂

He did after all look about 50 years old after just 10,000 years 😆

Where does he say that he’s an aged prime? Sorry you’re the guy that said prime is lying to himself here.

I really can’t trust your misinterpretation of comics until you can provide solid proof of your made up claims.

Diesldude 🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿🤦🏿

Sad!!! Just sad

Originally posted by Diesldude
Where does he say that he’s an aged prime? Sorry you’re the guy that said prime is lying to himself here.

I really can’t trust your misinterpretation of comics until you can provide solid proof of your made up claims.

Wanted to add, GS in his limited knowledge thinks the time trapper was operating from the 31st century.

Uh oh, What does it say there on top left of this page?
“END OF TIME”

Ohh look Prime is alive as the trapper at the end of time and only aged 20 years?!

Lmao as the time trapper he has complete mastery of time and he can look as he pleases. That’s a look of his choosing to separate himself from the boy prime.

And look further down on this scan, that’s prime lost in time, floating still as a boy thousands of years in the future. Maybe he was shot into the future or he was lost in space and time passes while he was unconscious. There is no proof of either, but we do now he’s thousands of years in the future and still looks like a boy and hasn’t aged.

And all this time you thought trapper was only about a thousand years old. 😂 I heard GS was a knowledgeable poster but I’ve shown time and time again, he just argues based off scans from ownage/respect threads. He doesn’t have enough brain power or comic knowledge to win an argument against me. He tires me because most of the time, conversing with him is like arguing with a nasty stubborn chick on her p. 👆 🙂

More often than not, when they say PIS, it's actually, "I don't like it so it doesn't count."

Prime lost to Black Adam and Captain Marvel. It also took him and a gang of Supermen to crash into Earth and destroy it and they still failed. Thor solos.

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-15b767dc934c242fa326dcdf97497700

Originally posted by carver9
Prime lost to Black Adam and Captain Marvel. It also took him and a gang of Supermen to crash into Earth and destroy it and they still failed. Thor solos.

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-15b767dc934c242fa326dcdf97497700

Nice lowballing.

Thor also failed to keep up with Captain America, Wolverine, and so many more.

Your boy Hulk has also failed to keep up with Captain America and Wolverine as well.

Originally posted by SquallX
Nice lowballing.

Thor also failed to keep up with Captain America, Wolverine, and so many more.

Your boy Hulk has also failed to keep up with Captain America and Wolverine as well.

how does that have anything to do with this thread

Originally posted by MrMind
how does that have anything to do with this thread

The fact that Carver’s saying Thor solo by using a lowballing Prime’s fight with Shazam and Adam.

Also, this is still Darkseid War Shazam. This Shazam received his gift not only for the he Wizard, but from the Old Gods as well. With one of them being Yuga Khan, the father Darkseid. The same man that made Darkseid bow to him.

Originally posted by Diesldude
Wanted to add, GS in his limited knowledge thinks the time trapper was operating from the 31st century.

Uh oh, What does it say there on top left of this page?
“END OF TIME”

Ohh look Prime is alive as the trapper at the end of time and only aged 20 years?!

Lmao as the time trapper he has complete mastery of time and he can look as he pleases. That’s a look of his choosing to separate himself from the boy prime.

And look further down on this scan, that’s prime lost in time, floating still as a boy thousands of years in the future. Maybe he was shot into the future or he was lost in space and time passes while he was unconscious. There is no proof of either, but we do now he’s thousands of years in the future and still looks like a boy and hasn’t aged.

And all this time you thought trapper was only about a thousand years old. 😂 I heard GS was a knowledgeable poster but I’ve shown time and time again, he just argues based off scans from ownage/respect threads. He doesn’t have enough brain power or comic knowledge to win an argument against me. He tires me because most of the time, conversing with him is like arguing with a nasty stubborn chick on her p. 👆 🙂

When does he become the Time Trapper? We're talking about the Prime that somehow defeated DK. That's like using TOBA Hulk in an Immortal Hulk versus debate to make a point. Wouldn't it also be an alternate time line which was a term used while debating TOBA Hulk a future version of the Hulk?