Taxation is Theft.

And if you don't think it is, what happens if you don't pay it?

Since it's not theft, it's voluntary.

Right?

Libertarianism is sociopathy.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Libertarianism is sociopathy.

Originally posted by Klaw
And if you don't think it is, what happens if you don't pay it?

Since it's not theft, it's voluntary.

Right?

Pretty sure you've made the same or similar thread with one of your former accounts. Anyhow, I'll bite.

As someone who doesn't like to see the bite taxes take each time, but understands a society needs money to function, what do you propose as a viable alternative to paying for the things we all use and make a society function?

At the risk of sounding like an utter moron, hasn't the government shut down before?

Isn't taxation basically to fund your country's government?

Originally posted by Robtard
Pretty sure you've made the same or similar thread with one of your former accounts. Anyhow, I'll bite.

As someone who doesn't like to see the bite taxes take each time, but understands a society needs money to function, what do you propose as a viable alternative to paying for the things we all use and make a society function?

It's not just that they take your taxes whether you want to pay them or not, it's also in the fact that they use your stolen wealth to fund wars and colonialistic nation building efforts, use it to give billionaires welfare while crushing smaller businesses, and offer sub par services.

The roads suck and way more people die of car crashes, which is partially due to poor central planning, than of co vid.

The lockdowns caused millons of deaths i.e. lack of cancer screenings, lack of doctor visits for pregnant women, etc.

Licensing requirements, minimum wage, and zoning laws increases homelessness and unemployment.

Welfare doesn't work and isn't virtuously accrued, as opposed to charity.

If taxes didn't exist the state would either and private enterprise would fill the voids left by state monopolies.

Competition, thus production goes up, and prices go down.

Something like that.

Sorry, the free market wouldn't come in and save everyone. Corporations have,with very few exceptions, always done whatever best helps them maximize profits, at the expense of the environment and/or people.

Originally posted by Robtard
Sorry, the free market wouldn't come in and save everyone. Corporations have,with very few exceptions, always done whatever best helps them maximize profits, at the expense of the environment and/or people.

How can you make a profit while not providing value* to your customers ?

For example, how long would a lemonade stand stay open if they put fatal poison in their lemonade ?

Your scenario is ridiculously extreme, because a poison lemonade stand would be hard to hide.

But there's many examples that kinda touch on it. eg DuPont and PFOA poisoning

Originally posted by Robtard
Your scenario is ridiculously extreme, because a poison lemonade stand would be hard to hide.

But there's many examples that kinda touch on it. eg PFOA poisoning

Is that forever chemicals or something else ?

Has teflon proved to be dangerous ?

I see that it's teflon.

Maybe read up on it, it's a well known story.

But DuPont poisoned over 70k people in that instance, knew it was happening and tried to cover it up so it could keep on business as usual because the profits were there to be reaped.

edit: To your edit. Listen, I don't care that you're a sock, but if you're going to be a bad faith poster, don't bother.

Originally posted by Robtard
Maybe read up on it, it's a well known story.

But DuPont poisoned over 70k people in that instance, knew it was happening and tried to cover it up so it could keep on business as usual because the profits were there to be reaped.

edit: To your edit. Listen, I don't care that you're a sock, but if you're going to be a bad faith poster, don't bother.

Originally posted by Robtard
Maybe read up on it, it's a well known story.

But DuPont poisoned over 70k people in that instance, knew it was happening and tried to cover it up so it could keep on business as usual because the profits were there to be reaped.

edit: To your edit. Listen, I don't care that you're a sock, but if you're going to be a bad faith poster, don't bother.

I'm not being bad faith. I have teflon pans so it confused me.
I see that they poisoned drinking water.

Dupont's website says that work with the government.
To me I would consider dupont an extension of the state less so than free market principles.
No one chooses to be poisoned knowingly.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
And don't get me started on Big Tobacco or fast food chains, and soft drinks firms.

^Bingo

Originally posted by ilikecomics
I'm not being bad faith. I have teflon pans so it confused me.
I see that they poisoned drinking water.

Dupont's website says that work with the government.
To me I would consider dupont an extension of the state less so than free market principles.
No one chooses to be poisoned knowingly.

So examples that prove you wrong suddenly become part of the "state". 😂

Originally posted by Robtard
Sorry, the free market wouldn't come in and save everyone. Corporations have,with very few exceptions, always done whatever best helps them maximize profits, at the expense of the environment and/or people.

See the current gas shortage. The private sector failed to protect itself from cyberattacks, even though it is in the best financial interest of the company to do so, and the consumers suffer.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
I'm not being bad faith. I have teflon pans so it confused me.
I see that they poisoned drinking water.

Dupont's website says that work with the government.
To me I would consider dupont an extension of the state less so than free market principles.
No one chooses to be poisoned knowingly.

As much as I am not a fan of the state, I do not see a viable alternative.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
How can you make a profit while not providing value* to your customers ?

For example, how long would a lemonade stand stay open if they put fatal poison in their lemonade ?

Youre wrong. We are seeing it right now with the vaccine patent waiver. Private companies put profits above saving lives.

Notice how people can't argue the point, so they have to change the subject to "well how are we going to pay for roads?"