Taxation is Theft.

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Originally posted by cdtm
Batman Beyond Bruce is best Old Man Batman.

Yeah, he's all right.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Whilst Libertarian Scholar is also an oxymoron (one word) it's also a non sequitur because it will never logically follow as an answer to the arguments of other people 🙂 This post also clearly shows the ironic thing about irony.

Kind of sounds like you made a category in your mind so you don't have to deal with arguments.

It's a nice cognitive labor saving device, but it won't help you get closer to the truth.

Re: Taxation is Theft.

Originally posted by Klaw
And if you don't think it is, what happens if you don't pay it?

Ask the billionaire capitalists what they do with the taxes they don't pay.

What does that have to do with the question?

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Ask the billionaire capitalists what they do with the taxes they don't pay.
👆 Exactly.

Originally posted by Klaw
What does that have to do with the question?

If you want to know what happens if you don't pay your taxes you should ask the people who are the best at avoiding paying their taxes.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
If you want to know what happens if you don't pay your taxes you should ask the people who are the best at avoiding paying their taxes.
😂 👆

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
If you want to know what happens if you don't pay your taxes you should ask the people who are the best at avoiding paying their taxes.

Yeah isnt weird that high iq highly competent people would manipulate the monopoly of force ?

It's kind of like bashing the shoe shop owner, In a mob controlled area, who pays less in protection money because he's better at negotiating.

Kind of districts from the point that the mob is violent and non desirable.

Yes because corporations are innocent victims of the corrupt and powerful state and every example of a corporation effectively running a country in place of the state has resulted in far better outcomes for the populace.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Yes because corporations are innocent victims of the corrupt and powerful state and every example of a corporation effectively running a country in place of the state has resulted in far better outcomes for the populace.

I'm not saying they're innocent whatsoever. I'm trying to highlight cronyism.

When has a corporation ever ran a country ?

United Fruit Company
United East India Company
British East India Company
Abir Congo Company
Royal Niger Company

Pretty much take your pick of any chartered Company during colonialism.

Even look at Iraq after the 2003 war. Effectively run by oil companies. They were able to force the iraqi government to spend their meagre military resources to create an army specifically to protect the oil pipelines that the western oil companies used to pump billions of barrels of oil out of the countries without being taxed because the government was deliberately kept too weak to do anything about it. As a nice byproduct of this they were also too weak to do anything about the rise of ISIS.

Originally posted by ilikecomics
Yeah isnt weird that high iq highly competent people would manipulate the monopoly of force ?

It's kind of like bashing the shoe shop owner, In a mob controlled area, who pays less in protection money because he's better at negotiating.

Kind of districts from the point that the mob is violent and non desirable.

You keep inherently tying Government to undesirable entities. Now they are the mob.

It's this kind silly thinking that I can't get behind. It's all so simplistic and completely ignores the complexity of human history.

Originally posted by Newjak
You keep inherently tying Government to undesirable entities. Now they are the mob.

It's this kind silly thinking that I can't get behind. It's all so simplistic and completely ignores the complexity of human history.

That's Libertarianism tbh.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
That's Libertarianism tbh.
Yeah it really is.

Like how everything in history that doesn't align with what they want is Crony Capitalism even though it's the nature of capitalism for some groups to achieve more success and then use that success to generate more wealth for them.

You're close.

Tax in itself is a necessity. You have to pay for those roads and emergency response units somehow. And the politicians need to be paid, they aren't working for free.

When it becomes theft is with pork barrel projects. Tax payer money spent strictly for political favor, at everyone elses expense.

Originally posted by Newjak
Yeah it really is.

Like how everything in history that doesn't align with what they want is Crony Capitalism even though it's the nature of capitalism for some groups to achieve more success and then use that success to generate more wealth for them.

Bingo! 👆

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Yes because corporations are innocent victims of the corrupt and powerful state and every example of a corporation effectively running a country in place of the state has resulted in far better outcomes for the populace.

Lesser of two evils tbh.

Neither extreme is desirable, but North Korea, Communist Russia, or Nazi Germany beats Walmart, Amazon, and Opec on the evil scale by a mile.

Originally posted by cdtm
Lesser of two evils tbh.

Neither extreme is desirable, but North Korea, Communist Russia, or Nazi Germany beats Walmart, Amazon, and Opec on the evil scale by a mile.

Ummm, Nazi Germany integrated the corporations into the machinery of Government.

Originally posted by Newjak
Yeah it really is.

Like how everything in history that doesn't align with what they want is Crony Capitalism even though it's the nature of capitalism for some groups to achieve more success and then use that success to generate more wealth for them.

Its human nature in general to find advantage. The difference between evil businesses and evil governments, is that evil governments have more potential to oppress entire populations.

That's what statists don't seem to understand, that power to do good that you desire can just as easily be turned against you. That's why some people want limited power of governments, so that an uprising isn't the only option in the event they become corrupt.

Originally posted by cdtm
Lesser of two evils tbh.

Neither extreme is desirable, but North Korea, Communist Russia, or Nazi Germany beats Walmart, Amazon, and Opec on the evil scale by a mile.

The Bengal famine, deliberately engineered by the British East India Company is the single biggest genocide in history.