Originally posted by carver9
Delta, what are you talking about, lol?
How you went from Superman's feats elsewhere didn't count in DOS because you didn't understand what DS argued to you now arguing, "No look at this PIS examples and no I'm not lowballing I swear." In addition to all the other problems.
Like Hulk's pants. Your refusal to admit you're wrong on they don't get destroyed because they won't show him naked is yet another example, like your playing the victim calling DS a hater because he asked you if it's true when I, not him, exposed you to not have actually read the comic on Wonder Woman and the black hole. Or you claiming Ultraman only got weaker after he lost the fight.
And I see you're on XBL, I want to wreck you 1 v 1 on SIEGE like I wreck you in everything.
Dark posted a showing of Strange not melting. There's a difference between what I'm saying vs what he's saying. The entire book with DOS displayed power level for ALL of the characters terribly. If the gas station scene was the only thing that happened in DOS, there's no way I would use that as a determining factor for these characters power levels but the entire comic was terrible. All of it. If you need me to post proof, let me know. The only reason you all are ignoring this is because it's Doomsday. You wouldn't be fighting this strongly for any other character.
Originally posted by carver9
Dark posted a showing of Strange not melting. There's a difference between what I'm saying vs what he's saying. The entire book with DOS displayed power level for ALL of the characters terribly. If the gas station scene was the only thing that happened in DOS, there's no way I would use that as a determining factor for these characters power levels but the entire comic was terrible. All of it. If you need me to post proof, let me know. The only reason you all are ignoring this is because it's Doomsday.
Epic. Fail. If you really read what he posted and that's all you understood from it, then I wonder how you find a door to open in the morning. He specifically named examples like cars ending fine.
Plus, this doesn't actually cover what I said. DS argued that Hulk beating X in AVENGERS isn't the same as in their own book, that you bring up Jane Thor or whoever having X frat in another book, DS brought up they weren't shown as that impressive in the series Hulk faced them in.
You came and started arguing that, even though DOS mostly happened in Superman's own books(just one issue of one non Superman title was part of it). Therefore your attempt to use his own argument against him, even after you maybe understand what he actually said, is invalid even going by your arguments standards.
So to try and avoid admitting your argument doesn't count because of PIS, you limit it to just this story, even if we assume even this standard is correct.
And I thought it worth mentioning, in JUSTICE LEAGUE AMERICA not too long before this, Superman, after being heavily drained by Starbreaker, was talking heat and pressure from being in magma on Almerac. And by the standard you tried to use against DS when you kinda comprehended his argument, this would be a weaker Superman given he has more impressive feats in his own book. But the gas station no context is valid.
And I take it you're backing down from me wrecking you like a $2 whore on SIEGE.
Originally posted by carver9
What book did Dark talk about where the Avengers were weak?
That's not what he actually argued. Do I have to show you? Yes, yes I do.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Carv is trying his best to trap me, because he's salty about something I pointed out a few months/years ago.My point back then was that in team books, characters are sometimes written down, whilst others are written up, compared to their solo titles. Batman in JL is way more uber than in Detective Comics, for example.
I used this with the Avengers. Jane Thor in her solo was written way more powerful than in Avengers, hence, Immortal Hulk shrugging her off wasn't strictly comparable to her batting entire galaxies away or whatever.
So his point was Hulk facing X in AVENGERS isn't the same as facing them in their own title. It's one thing to argue yes you can use feats from other comics, but you never understood his point to begin with. You just whined.
And then you have been all over the place, arguing hyperbole when it suits you and giving examples for Marvel characters that make them look good because of statements. While utterly failing sometimes even in your straw grasping. H1 brought up the Thor Big Bang thing being mystical, you're basically "prove it!!" WHEN THE NARRATION IN THE VERY SAME PANEL BEFORE IT SAYS THEY MAKE A BIG BANG says a wave of mystical energy.
And you FEEEEEAR MEEEEE to 1v1 in SIEGE confirmed.
He said characters are written down while others are written up. 🤔🤔
Everyone in DOS, including Doomsday was written down which makes his point irrelevant. The thread starter can easily fix this. Say this is DOOMSDAY instead of DOS Doomsday and Boom, you'll get what you want, Doomsday stomps. While that DOS is still clinging there, Hercules bends him.
Also, Dark mentioning Jane in that book is irrelevant. Same book, Jane was deemed as being able to push planetary weight along with Hercules. Hulk shrugging them off is INSANELY impressive and no, she has not done that in her solo book.
Originally posted by carver9
He said characters are written down while others are written up. 🤔🤔Everyone in DOS, including Doomsday was written down which makes his point irrelevant. The thread starter can easily fix this. Say this is DOOMSDAY instead of DOS Doomsday and Boom, you'll get what you want, Doomsday stomps. While that DOS is still clinging there, Hercules bends him.
Also, Dark mentioning Jane in that book is irrelevant. Same book, Jane was deemed as being able to push planetary weight along with Hercules. Hulk shrugging them off is INSANELY impressive and no, she has not done that in her solo book.
So you're lying or still don't understand? Which is it fearful one?
OK, you want an example? DS argued about differences in team books to solo books. You intentionally and dishonestly leave that pit to claim the point is irrelevant. You could say that all you want for the others, but all but one comic of DOS happened in Superman books. Therefore you must lie and ignore Superman's showings in his own book and limit it to DOS.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol... my argument isn't terrible tbh, AND, the only counters I'm seeing have literally been all over the place. It's like you all want me to scan dump to prove my point when most of you have already seen everything I've mentioned. You're a mod, if you want this topic to stop, I don't mind moving on. This discussion could have ended pages ago.
You don't even know how auto-shields work and you're up in here talking about how great your argument. GTFO with that bullshit.
Originally posted by -Pr-
You don't even know how auto-shields work and you're up in here talking about how great your argument. GTFO with that bullshit.
And this is where the confusion starts again. I mentioned the same exact thing to ABHI and he said the below. Mentioned it to CDTM and he said the shields are paper thin (which was proven wrong).
Originally posted by abhilegend
Or Doomsday broke the auto shields and grabbed the jacket. It's not hard to understand, if you aren't a gibbering toddler.
Anyways, I'm done here. Seems like this topic isn't as lenient to most (even though other characters deal with this same kind of stuff daily). You can have the last word.
Originally posted by carver9
So you're saying instead of accepting everything that happened in DOS, I need to ignore it and focus on nothing but his high showings? I just want to make sure of what I'm reading here. Focus primarily on all of his fts before DOS and ignore every single thing that happened throughout DOS?
That's not what I said at all. How is your reading comprehension so terrible but you don't look like a total retard grammar wise?
Originally posted by carver9
And this is where the confusion starts again. I mentioned the same exact thing to ABHI and he said the below. Mentioned it to CDTM and he said the shields are paper thin (which was proven wrong).Anyways, I'm done here. Seems like this topic isn't as lenient to most (even though other characters deal with this same kind of stuff daily). You can have the last word.
facepalm
Originally posted by carver9You should know how this place work by now carver. Lol
And this is where the confusion starts again. I mentioned the same exact thing to ABHI and he said the below. Mentioned it to CDTM and he said the shields are paper thin (which was proven wrong).Anyways, I'm done here. Seems like this topic isn't as lenient to most (even though other characters deal with this same kind of stuff daily). You can have the last word.