DOS Doomsday vs Hercules

Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
You didnt address my point though
Arguing the bio is hyperbolic by using lois and others just doesnt work. Because comics(or more precisely, basically all fictions) are full of stuff like this
People dont get killed when they should be killed by logic
Clothes dont get destroyed when they should be destroyed by logic
Surroundings/grounds dont get shattered when they should be shattered by logic etc
Such like this
the blast itself being powerful enough to destroy several billion entire dimensions but still doesnt do any damage to Owen's apartment
https://ibb.co/h7sL0JY

"Hey, Doomsday punches didn't destroy the ground, so they obviously brought no leverage, so he was solely punching with his upper body, but since he wasn't sent spinning into he air his strength must've been below the weight of his upper body, what a weakling!"

This is in all honesty, a fight that I wouldn't want to read about. Hercules would surely die here.

Originally posted by h1a8
So you are saying that Superman and DD didn't shake the Earth because of the lack of collateral damage (people standing around), regardless of writers intent?

No, in regards to Superman shaking the planet, that's hyperbole.

Originally posted by carver9
No, in regards to Superman shaking the planet, that's hyperbole.

Doomsday wins.

Originally posted by h1a8
So the writer didn't mean that literally? The writer was exaggerating?

Did the writer mean Thor was shaking stars with hammer strikes?

https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-a2f8c24afb312c5c56b9f8382a9f7b54

I want you to think of the magnitude of these ft and how much it puts Thor above ANY Herald. We know you don't want that so I feel confident your answer won't be "yes".

Thor and Hercules strike with enough force to shatter worlds...

https://i.imgur.com/7793LHw.jpg

It took planet shaking power to destroy Doomsday whereas Hercules can produce world (S) shattering single strikes. Writer intent for the win.

Hercules has arm wrestled with enough strength to move planets...

https://i.imgur.com/rxOnVVd.jpg

Writer intent.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor and Hercules strike with enough force to shatter worlds...

https://i.imgur.com/7793LHw.jpg

It took planet shaking power to destroy Doomsday whereas Hercules can produce world (S) shattering single strikes. Writer intent for the win.

Hercules has arm wrestled with enough strength to move planets...

https://i.imgur.com/rxOnVVd.jpg

Writer intent.

This is true.

Originally posted by Stoic
This is true.

Lol... I can go even further with this. Writers intent, Thor hitting with enough force from a single strike that it is more powerful than the big bang. Universal Thor for the win.

https://ibb.co/P95Lwkx

Writers intent.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor and Hercules strike with enough force to shatter worlds...

https://i.imgur.com/7793LHw.jpg

It took planet shaking power to destroy Doomsday whereas Hercules can produce world (S) shattering single strikes. Writer intent for the win.

Hercules has arm wrestled with enough strength to move planets...

https://i.imgur.com/rxOnVVd.jpg

Writer intent.

1. Unquantifiable.Hyperbole
2. Arm wrestling? Not sure if canon since came after story. Took a mighty long time to do. A shared feat.
3. Those are very old showings. Current versions are vastly different.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... I can go even further with this. Writers intent, Thor hitting with enough force from a single strike that it is more powerful than the big bang. Universal Thor for the win.

https://ibb.co/P95Lwkx

Writers intent.

Thor isn't in the thread.

Originally posted by carver9
Thor and Hercules strike with enough force to shatter worlds...

https://i.imgur.com/7793LHw.jpg

It took planet shaking power to destroy Doomsday whereas Hercules can produce world (S) shattering single strikes. Writer intent for the win.

Hercules has arm wrestled with enough strength to move planets...

https://i.imgur.com/rxOnVVd.jpg

Writer intent.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... I can go even further with this. Writers intent, Thor hitting with enough force from a single strike that it is more powerful than the big bang. Universal Thor for the win.

https://ibb.co/P95Lwkx

Writers intent.

Originally posted by h1a8
1. Unquantifiable.Hyperbole
2. Arm wrestling? Not sure if canon since came after story. Took a mighty long time to do. A shared feat.
3. Those are very old showings. Current versions are vastly different.

Glad we agree statements are hyperbolic.

Originally posted by h1a8
Thor isn't in the thread.

He doesn't need to be. Herc and Thor are physical equals. Said on panel.

Originally posted by carver9
He doesn't need to be. Herc and Thor are physical equals. Said on panel.

Thor used a magical weapon to achieve that. Striking two adamantium hammers wouldn't have done ANYTHING.

Originally posted by h1a8
Characters don't share feats, even if an old comic by a particular writer stated they are physical equals.

Thor used a magical weapon to achieve that. Striking two adamantium hammers wouldn't have done ANYTHING.

Show me where it said magic had something to do with the power output of that hit.

Originally posted by carver9
How am I lowballing Superman? Are you not reading my posts? I specifically said "if we limit this primarily to DOS, Hercules CAN win this based off everything that was shown in DOS". Now if you want to debate this, we can.

But DOS Doomsday can also do what his prior incarnations can do.

DOS Superman, too.

We are discussing DOS Doomsday here which means only showings from DOS can be used in this debate. If we are using fts outside of DOS, then the thread starter should've said Doomsday vs Hercules. He put the limitation on this thread, not me. Maybe mods need to put something in the rules that states DOS Doomsday get fts before and after DOS.

Originally posted by carver9
We are discussing DOS Doomsday here which means only showings from DOS can be used in this debate. If we are using fts outside of DOS, then the thread starter should've said Doomsday vs Hercules. He put the limitation on this thread, not me. Maybe mods need to put something in the rules that states DOS Doomsday get fts before and after DOS.

Nope, that's not how it works, sadly.

Even IF it was, the Superman he physically beat to death ISN'T limited to DOS feats only, nor is Guy Gardner etc etc.

DOS Doomsday beat Superman to death, which almost no other character since has done. Forum rules state nothing about 'Jurgens' Superman or anything like that, and we have Death Metal to thank for ALL feats being canon - Silver Age Superman, Golden Age, Pre and Post Crisis.

So Doomsday beat a Superman who was able to sneeze planets away, tow planets with a chain, throw people so hard they go back in time etc etc, physically to death - if this is REALLY how you want to play it, I am down to argue forum rules with you 🙂