Originally posted by carver9
Lol... I wonder how long it took you to find that post. Surfer versatility helped him in a fight against Knull and Knull wrecking Thor proves he is far above Thor as well. Only difference is, Surfer won and Thor didn't and Surfer showing against Knull was better.
Lol the search function took me....a couple of seconds.
So Surfer was far below Knull yet managed to beat him, yet you don't think it's PIS?
Ahhh but Surfer used his versatility! Correct.
Weakness exploit, then. Metallo can beat Superman and Supergirl combined, but Magneto would smoke him.
Surfer moved so fast around Earth that he time traveled. He did this off of pure speed. Something that most of the time, Flash himself have to use a device to do. And yes, this showing includes speed, perception, reflexes, etc...
Does it again...
Does it again...
Again...
Again...
Originally posted by carver9
Surfer moved so fast around Earth that he time traveled. He did this off of pure speed. Something that most of the time, Flash himself have to use a device to do. And yes, this showing includes speed, perception, reflexes, etc...
ROFLMAO.
So, when it suits you, old-ass scans are admissible, are they??
OK.
Here, Superman catches something moving extremely quickly:
https://imgur.com/a/3xbiQ
How quickly?
https://imgur.com/a/9e71V
The speed of light was a snail's crawl compared to them.
But you seem to want travel speed 🙂
Here is Superman travelling at infinite speed:
https://imgur.com/a/nOeX9
THAT is pure speed, my friend.
Originally posted by carver9
😂I knew you would say that which is the reason I posted current showings and also, you keep thinking PreCrisis stuff is applicable. I'm not accepting that because he is NOWHERE near that power. I can 100% provide evidence of that.
Want me to get some mods in? Your acceptance of stuff means nothing to me, so no need to post any evidence. Your feelings are moot.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Here is Superman travelling at infinite speed:
https://imgur.com/a/nOeX9THAT is pure speed, my friend.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Want me to get some mods in? Your acceptance of stuff means nothing to me, so no need to post any evidence. Your feelings are moot.
Don't care tbh because again, he's no where CLOSE to that power recently, so you posting fts from precrisis means absolutely nothing. It's like posting scans from an amped character. Superman back then >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Superman now. So post away. He currently can't do any of that which again, makes your scan, poo poo. I'm talking about soft dooky. You're posting thise scans for your pleasure, not for this debate.
Originally posted by carver9
Don't care tbh because again, he's no where CLOSE to that power recently, so you posting fts from precrisis means absolutely nothing. It's like posting scans from an amped character. Superman back then >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Superman now. So post away. He currently can't do any of that which again, makes your scan, poo poo. I'm talking about soft dooky. You're posting thise scans for your pleasure, not for this debate.
So I shall get some mods in, OK. Then we can have a nice ruling, just like with speed and with Hercs 😈
I wonder what Galan and Pr think, do you wonder what they think about PC Supes etc?
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
All versions of Superman count now.
It does? Does this count? Also, Lady Shiva beat him after this...
https://dreager1.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/shadowdragon03.jpg
Originally posted by carver9
It does? Does this count? Also, Lady Shiva beat him after this...https://dreager1.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/shadowdragon03.jpg
🙂 Only one way to answer your question is to get some mod rulings, right?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So I shall get some mods in, OK. Then we can have a nice ruling, just like with speed and with Hercs 😈I wonder what Galan and Pr think, do you wonder what they think about PC Supes etc?
😕 ... I don't know but again, CURRENT Superman can not achieve anything close to PreCrisis level fts, so it really doesn't matter. Does his magic weakness and red sunlight showings from Precrisis also count?
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
So Carver using old showings for Surfer while not allowing others to use old showings for Superman. Seems pretty double standard 📖
Surfer is weaker back then than he is now. Wtf. Why is this so hard to comprehend? Superman is more powerful back then than he is now. Posting scans for classic Surfer achieving great fts when overall he was WEAKER proves how powerful CURRENT Surfer is. Posting scans of Precrisis Superman a more powerful version of Supes compared to current Superman doesn't make one bit of sense. You might as well post Sundip fts for a non amped Superman.😶😶😶
