MCU Abomination vs. Aquaman

Started by tkitna16 pages
Originally posted by carver9
Why do you all debate against H1? I don't understand why people are wanting energy on him.

So true

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman wasn't stronger in BvS. If he was i wouldn't.

Theres wayyyy more evidence MOS Superman was weaker than there is that TIH Hulk was weaker.

Theres an actual in universe explanation as well for MOS. Nothing like that for TIH.

Darth, give up on him. I did. No matter how asinine the reasoning will be, he will always twist it around for his benefit. Also, if you notice, he is the only person siding with Aquaman. That should tell you something.

Originally posted by tkitna
Darth, give up on him. I did. No matter how asinine the reasoning will be, he will always twist it around for his benefit. Also, if you notice, he is the only person siding with Aquaman. That should tell you something.

Yeah I know. In fact I dont think hes ever convinced even 1 person to see a point his way. Which says A LOT.

Despite that I used to have a tiny bit of respect for him in the past because he used to keep his cool and never resort to insults. But that times looooong gone.

Careful. he might shoot you with a bullet that hits with 313 million tons of force.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Careful. he might shoot you with a bullet that hits with 313 million tons of force.

If he could just let me borrow that bullet first im sure id be a millionaire…. before he blows up my whole house with it. Heck maybe the whole street.

H1s space numbers.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
If he could just let me borrow that bullet first im sure id be a millionaire…. before he blows up my whole house with it. Heck maybe the whole street.

According to a car crash calculator 313 million tons of force is around what a 160lb person would exp in a crash at 124,000mph

Originally posted by Silent Master
According to a car crash calculator 313 million tons of force is around what a 160lb person would exp in a crash at 124,000mph

Thats some impressive bullet.

But Didnt he actually say it was Billions of tons of force for aircraft bullets? He was even whacky enough to give calculations for it IIRC.

Sounds like something he'd say, but I can't recall.

Originally posted by tkitna
So basically if there are no alien creatures the size of small skyscrapers or steel vaults to rip out of metal walls in the movie, that automatically means he's unable to perform those feats? Thats how your thinking right? You constantly bring up the metal chain that the Hulk choked the Abomination out with, but refuse to use the context behind it. The Abomination had no chance to break the chain (as so obviously shown during the movie). He was going out at that point. He never once even attempted to break the chain. Instead of concentrating on things you dont understand, try figuring out how Aquaman got KO'd by a grenade launcher if he's so tough.
When someone is bias then they easily miss important things said.

I stated
1. The way Hulk moved an threw objects (his strength can be estimated)
2. Hulk using tissue paper to fight with (implies that Abom wasn't too much more than the tissue paper).
3. Tissue paper able to choke Abom without breaking. If both abom's toughness and Hulks strength were in the thousands of tons range then Hulk would have broke the chain on Abom's neck in attempts to strangle Abom.
4. Hulk been injured by a lightning strike.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Theres wayyyy more evidence MOS Superman was weaker than there is that TIH Hulk was weaker.

Theres an actual in universe explanation as well for MOS. Nothing like that for TIH.

Give me some evidence that BvS was physically stronger than MOS strongest showing.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Thats some impressive bullet.

But Didnt he actually say it was Billions of tons of force for aircraft bullets? He was even whacky enough to give calculations for it IIRC.

I posted pictures of a program giving those wrong calculations. I posted the correction when I actually did the calculations by hand. Silent likes to bring it up as if it means anything to my arguments.

And it wasnt force of a bullet. It was pressure.
For example, the pressure of a hyperthermic needle (from its weight) is more than 55 tons per square inch.

Stop pretending that you made a good-faith effort. You didn't update any numbers until after multiple people called out your BS. Nor is that the only example of you getting things wrong.

Oddly enough, it seems that every time you get something wrong it is in your favor.
Why don't you show us how much of a math genius you are by giving us the odds of that being a coincidence

Originally posted by h1a8
I posted pictures of a program giving those wrong calculations. I posted the correction when I actually did the calculations by hand.

Yeah but only you would lack the common sense to see there was clearly something wrong there with the result of that calculation.

Originally posted by h1a8
Give me some evidence that BvS was physically stronger than MOS strongest showing.

There was no massive strength feat he had in MOS.

But his limitations were clearly shown when he could not lift an oil rig. Clearly completely contradictory to his strength feats in BvS and JL.

Plus we were CLEARLY Shown in MOS that his powers were increasing through practice.

Now its your turn. Show me CLEAR limitations to Hulks strength in TIH which contradict his later showing in Avengers. Also give me an In Universe explanation they showed for how he grew in power, like youre suggesting he is.

Originally posted by h1a8
When someone is bias then they easily miss important things said.

I stated
1. The way Hulk moved an threw objects (his strength can be estimated)
2. Hulk using tissue paper to fight with (implies that Abom wasn't too much more than the tissue paper).
3. Tissue paper able to choke Abom without breaking. If both abom's toughness and Hulks strength were in the thousands of tons range then Hulk would have broke the chain on Abom's neck in attempts to strangle Abom.
4. Hulk been injured by a lightning strike.

😆 You keep saying tissue paper for the chains. The only question I have for you is how do you feel Aquaman would fare if the Hulk wrapped that said tissue paper chain around Aquamans neck?

Originally posted by tkitna
😆 You keep saying tissue paper for the chains. The only question I have for you is how do you feel Aquaman would fare if the Hulk wrapped that said tissue paper chain around Aquamans neck?
Applying his submarine strength then the chains will do nothing. If Hulk is strong enough then the chains will simply snap. Do you think you can strangle an armored tank with a chain? Or will the chain break without doing hardly any damage to the tank?

Originally posted by Darth Thor
There was no massive strength feat he had in MOS.

But his limitations were clearly shown when he could not lift an oil rig. Clearly completely contradictory to his strength feats in BvS and JL.

Plus we were CLEARLY Shown in MOS that his powers were increasing through practice.

Now its your turn. Show me CLEAR limitations to Hulks strength in TIH which contradict his later showing in Avengers. Also give me an In Universe explanation they showed for how he grew in power, like youre suggesting he is.

Massive is an opinion.
I'm talking about MOS best strength feat against BvS best strength feat. Which wins? MOS obviously.

You keep talking about the oil rig when Superman has done many things that contradict that showing.

His powers were increasing means he was learning to do NEW Things (like fly). He wasn't getting stronger. But if he was then that kills your argument. Superman at the end of the film was stronger than in the beginning. Therefore, your oil rig argument is faulty.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah but only you would lack the common sense to see there was clearly something wrong there with the result of that calculation.
Not really. Because pressure is different than force. Almost no one would guess that a hyperthermic needle can supply more than 55 tons of force with just its weight.
An aircraft bullet is many many times more force than the weight of a needle. So it makes since the number should be high.

But what does that matter, I achieved the correct answer doing it myself.