MI5 worried about online toxic right wing ideology grooming kids on sites like Discor

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Originally posted by Bashar Teg
I disagree about the relevance of facebook being inherently good/bad/neutral. if people are allowed to broadcast dangerous material, unmoderated, they were enabled to do so by the site owners. if someone hung a nazi flag on a restaurant wall, and the proprietor just left it flying on their wall for months, I think opinions would be different

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Originally posted by -Pr-
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Right. So remember when you had a landline? And you had to keep a little notebook with all your phone numbers in it? And the whole issue with only one person being able to use it at a time? And then when the internet came along, you couldn't use the phone and it at the same time? Then remember how good it was that mobile phones came along and you could store all your contacts in that phone for easy texting?

I honestly think that social media, as a concept, is just an extension of that. It's just been used, or rather, abused, to become something it really shouldn't be,

As soon as I understood Facebooks issues I left it.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Not sure I see what you mean.

Facebook as a site is one thing. The behaviour of the people that run it is another. And again, what you consider dangerous or offensive isn't always going to be what I might. Sure, there are the extremes that everyone can agree are shitty, but they're not the only kind of objectionable content.

I mistook your point, then. though I must confess I still don't get your actual point. the scenario I made up was only intended to point out the futility of judging social media as a concept. Let's say that it was instead a sign hung that said "kill all the *insert minority or religious group*". the restaurant is just a restaurant. walls, tables, a big kitchen, servers serving food. nothing inherently evil. so the solution is moderation, not elimination. Is that your point? I'd agree, but no half measures will suffice

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
As soon as I understood Facebooks issues I left it.

I'm skeptical of that shit in general. If I have to use it (social media i mean), it's only to make keeping in touch easier. I don't do anything else with it.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
I mistook your point, then. though I must confess I still don't get your actual point. the scenario I made up was only intended to point out the futility of judging social media as a concept. Let's say that it was instead a sign hung that said "kill all the *insert minority or religious group*". the restaurant is just a restaurant. walls, tables, a big kitchen, servers serving food. nothing inherently evil. so the solution is moderation, not elimination. Is that your point? I'd agree, but no half measures will suffice

I agree to an extent yes. The degree of moderation would probably be a point of contention, but on principle I agree, yeah. Sorry if I didn't seem to be following.