IW Thor vs Hulk and Ironman

Started by FrothByte8 pages

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Its actually not even confirmed that he can deflect Thors lightning. Only IMs repulsors. I know Thor amped IM, but it was still repulsors shots being fired at Thanos, not lightning.

They really needed a scene to justify them fighting up close though against a guy stronger than Hulk, a better warrior than Thor, with a sword as strong as Mjolnir or Stormbreaker.

Part of the reason I'm not a big fan of Endgame is because of the dumb choreography. Ironman is far more of a ranged fighter than he is a melee fighter, yet he only fires one or two blasts against Thanos then jumps right in after him.

Thor is even worse. He's already encountered Thanos before so he knows just how strong he is, even watched him beat up Hulk. Yet he never shoots him with lightning in Endgame but instead engages him in melee?

At least Captain America was smart enough to use whatever ranged attacks he had available to him, and we can see from Wanda's fight that Thanos has no answer for ranged attacks.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Part of the reason I'm not a big fan of Endgame is because of the dumb choreography. Ironman is far more of a ranged fighter than he is a melee fighter, yet he only fires one or two blasts against Thanos then jumps right in after him.

Thor is even worse. He's already encountered Thanos before so he knows just how strong he is, even watched him beat up Hulk. Yet he never shoots him with lightning in Endgame but instead engages him in melee?

At least Captain America was smart enough to use whatever ranged attacks he had available to him, and we can see from Wanda's fight that Thanos has no answer for ranged attacks.

Yeah I made these same points in the other thread. With movie Thanos not having ranged attacks, Thor and IM dont come across as very smart in their strategy.

I feel like they at least should have had a season where Thanos throws his sword at them, or Thunderclaps, or jumps up and grabs them… Just anything to justify why they wouldnt bother with ranged attacks. But nothing.

Scene* not season.

I found the entirety of Endgames action sequences terrible and kinda lazy

Originally posted by Silent Master
I see that h1 still doesn't know that Thor can summon Stormbreaker
I see that you don't understand what "against Thor's will" means.

How are they going to keep a weapon he can summon away from him? try using your brain for once.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
I found the entirety of Endgames action sequences terrible and kinda lazy

Pretty much this. The majority of the action sequences were dumb and constructed in a way that was purely for the sake of having the plot develop in a specific direction while taking little to no consideration of the power and intelligence levels of the characters.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Why would you not think Thanos wasn't seriously fighting? Sure he wasn't quite as bloodthirsty as he was in Endgame but her certainly was willing to kill Infinity War. Heck, he killed a whole bunch of Asgardians in the first few minutes of the movie.

As for using his blade to deflect attacks, that's because IM and Thor fought stupidly in Endgame. Had they simply stayed at range and bombarded him with ranged attacks then Thanos would not have been able to block all of them.

Originally posted by 9jaboy
Good point.
Though you have to consider that Thanos wasn't seriously fighting or meant to kill any of them in Infinity War maybe right until Tony drew blood.
I was referring to when he fought them on Titan he wasn't , otherwise Spidey, Mantis,Starlord would have all died. As they were blasted with the stone(Power iirc). Even when he came to Earth he didn't try to kill anyone.

I agree they fought Stupidly in Endgame.

Originally posted by Silent Master
How are they going to keep a weapon he can summon away from him? try using your brain for once.

By not letting it be summoned to him idiot. Just like what Hela did.

None of them are anywhere close to being as strong as Hela. try again.

Originally posted by Silent Master
None of them are anywhere close to being as strong as Hela. try again.

1. So you are ignoring the fact that Helas feet wasn't glued to the ground to prevent her from going forward with Mjolnir.

2. They don't have to be as strong as Hela to do that.
They just have to have strength feats greater than any summon feat Stormbreaker has.

3. Kurse bat Mjolnir away (which has enchantment and Stormbreaker doesn't). So to stop Mjolnir from returning takes a small fraction of the force Kurse used.

Doesn't change the fact that Hela is far stronger than them, so her being able to do something doesn't prove they can, same with Kurse.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Doesn't change the fact that Hela is far stronger than them, so her being able to do something doesn't prove they can, same with Kurse.
Deflection. Her feet didn't crush the ground when holding Mjolnir nor was she taken off her feet. Therefore, it wasn't purely strength there.

Basically i just proved to overpower the return force takes a small fraction of Kurse strength. The force is also less than the frictional force between Kurse feet and the ground since Kurse didnt slide or come off his feet.
Hulk and IM are both stronger than a small fraction of Kurse strength and also stronger than the frictional force between kurse feet and the ground.

Post the clip where that is stated in the actual movie.

IW Thor could take either of them out with a single blow and a Thor not holding back would wreck here.

Hulk would die first via axe to the face, IM would be harder to hit, but it'd just be a matter of time until it happened.

Originally posted by Robtard
IW Thor could take either of them out with a single blow and a Thor not holding back would wreck here.

Hulk would die first via axe to the face, IM would be harder to hit, but it'd just be a matter of time until it happened.

Hulk can catch Stormbreaker and then pummel Thor. Thor can definitely beat Hulk solo but we have IM here.

IM is faster than Thor, has shields and cutting weapons. Im convinced that IM can beat this Thor solo. Hulk would help be a distraction while IM stab him good.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Post the clip where that is stated in the actual movie.

What is stated? Be specific. I said a lot of shit.

Lol!!!

Originally posted by h1a8
What is stated? Be specific. I said a lot of shit.

Everything you've claimed.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Everything you've claimed.

One thing at a time. What do you want to know where it is stated in the movie?