Originally posted by Booya_69
The thing is that prior to that fight, juggernaut was known for invulnerability PLUS his forcefeild.
Only according to Beast.
And let's be honest, Beast's power level can't allow him to properly assess Juggernaut's invulnerability --- especially considering how it was Hank in his original form.
Anyway, no point in discussing it now - let's stick to the topic - Stoic wanted that Thor/Juggernaut fight to prove that Thor has the strength advantage - when it doesn't prove such thing at all.
In fact, the comic specifically mentions Juggernaut retains his strength and stamina --- both things Thor is so impressed of, he is careful and trying to make the most of the situation.
Wolverine has knocked out Roughouse with his fists alone. Does that make him stronger than Roughouse? No.
Other examples, Cap vs. Hyde, Spider-Man vs. Firelord (or Rhino), hell you even have Winter Soldier with his bionic arm nerfed down to human levels, still managing to beat Boris Bullski or Ursa Major.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Batman and Grundy 😈
Yes.
Or Batman vs. Titan Super Gladiator.
Wildcat/Grundy. Green Arrow/Grundy.
Moon Knight and Werewolf by Knight.
Wonder Woman and [insert Class 100+ herald]
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Imagine playing a multiplayer game. Suddenly, a cheater who always played with godmode on, can't play like that anymore.
Even the average players will whoop his ass before he gets enough time to actually get used to normal rules of the game.
That was the case with Thor and Juggernaut there.
...
Except Thor failed to get the job done.
Originally posted by abhilegend
No, she was as strong as Thor under Aaron and weaker everywhere else.
She ripped through that adamantium-vibranium alloy with her bare fingers.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, no.
They're very close, but if anyone has the advantage, it's the god of strength. Not the god of hammers and electrocuting himself.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
She ripped through that adamantium-vibranium alloy with her bare fingers.
So has Thing and Ms Marvel.
They're very close, but if anyone has the advantage, it's the god of strength. Not the god of hammers and electrocuting himself.
Well if we are talking about meme version of Thor, sure. Hercules is a bigger jobber than even Thor though.
Originally posted by Stoic
WW Hulk was the Green Scar holding back. We know this, it isn't really something that can be disputed.
And I'm agreement with that statement. We all saw hulk spike well beyond wwh levels in an instant. I wasn't trying to say that Cain is stronger than the Hulk, but hercules is a different story. I apologize, my post wasn't clear.
But it cements abhis post. The writers back then viewed juggernaut as a big threat to the hulk and decades later writers still think that. How many times have we seen hercules on a team fight hulk and still lose? I also think your looking too much into strength feats. Juggernaut always matches up well with the heavy hitters. The thing has better strength feats than the Juggernaut, but he was swatted away like a fly when he stepped to juggs. Juggernaut walked up on thor and ***** slapped him like a red headed step child. Cain was about to snap the hulks neck right before hulks strength spiked. Hercules wouldn't fair any better imo
Originally posted by abhilegend
So has Thing and Ms Marvel.
No.
Thing has punched his way through.
Carol has broken free of the shackles.
Jane has actually digged her fingers through the alloy, way more impressive.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Well if we are talking about meme version of Thor, sure. Hercules is a bigger jobber than even Thor though.
There is no bigger jobber than Thor.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
No.Thing has punched his way through.
Carol has broken free of the shackles.
Jane has actually digged her fingers through the alloy, way more impressive.
She actually got her fingers through the gaps and opened the door.
There is no bigger jobber than Thor.
Thor never got cut up by Zabu