How strong is Hercules really by comparison.........

Started by cdtm32 pages
Originally posted by -Pr-
That's because the comic is pretty clear about showing that. It's what we're all supposed to take from it.

It did a good job of it. 👆

Hulk actually looked really powerful by virtue of not being blown away by Juggernauts enchantment. Stood against him, didn't budge an inch.

Hulk outright admitted he held back during the entire run in World at War (during his fight with Sakaar). We clearly see what happens when he dips into his power (World breaker Hulk).

Well Hercules grip was broken by Magneto but it could form so the element of Adamantium is stronger than 2.0 in grip. However if he can C3PO his grip he might be stronger than force.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk outright admitted he held back during the entire run in World at War (during his fight with Sakaar). We clearly see what happens when he dips into his power (World breaker Hulk).

This is nonsensical. He was simultaneously trying to end things quickly, whilst holding back his strength?

Surely it's faster to one shot Juggy than to lock hands and engage in a pushing match, but apparently not in Carv world.

The nonsense of anger is Hulk’s strength.

WWH was powerful enough to overpower and brutally mutilate Colossus. But WWH was not strong enough to overpower Juggernaut. He would've done that if he could -- as evidenced by how he treated Colossus, Wolverine, depowered Cain, etc.

I didn’t read it but advanced technology beat juggernaut so if Hulk can advance against Juggernaut he can win. That’s for you Carver.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
This is nonsensical. He was simultaneously trying to end things quickly, whilst holding back his strength?

Surely it's faster to one shot Juggy than to lock hands and engage in a pushing match, but apparently not in Carv world.

So you're saying that hulk was using his max strength constantly?

Depends.

Do you think Hulk is stupid? 🙂

Because if time is of the essence, what possible reason does he have to hold back and prolong playing around with The Juggernaut?

Originally posted by Booya_69
So you're saying that hulk was using his max strength constantly?

Max strength against Juggy and Logan.

Max speed against Beast/Logan/Strong Guy etc.

Max durability at all times.

Originally posted by cdtm
Depends.

Do you think Hulk is stupid? 🙂

Because if time is of the essence, what possible reason does he have to hold back and prolong playing around with The Juggernaut?

Originally posted by Wonder Man
The nonsense of anger is Hulk’s strength.

Again, he obviously was holding back because we saw him on panel get more powerful than WWH. Even after his fight against the Xmen, he admitted he held back throughout everything. Yes, Juggernaut was harder to put down than Colossus but shouldn't he be? Also, Hulk didn't one shot Guildo either, he didn't one shot Wolverine, Warpath, etc... that doesn't make them his equal, not even close. He just didn't try to kill them (as stated in my post). He states here that he didn't have time to fight Juggernaut...

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I dont get why you all are clinging to this. This thread isn't about Hulk. Hulk is a FAR more threatening person than anyone mentioned in this thread. The thread is mainly about Hercules, so peeps should get back on topic.

Hulk made Guido one-shot himself.

And he did one-shot Warpath.

As for Wolverine, he needed to land multiple punches, as there was no other way to overload his healing factor. A single punch, no matter how powerful, won't do more than turning Logan's organs to jelly - something that always happens when he's facing strong bricks. Recovering from that isn't the problem. Repeating the feat several (or dozens of) times - now that's when the hf begins to fail, as it doesn't run on infinite energy.

You are a moron, carver.

Carver: launches into a rant about Hulk

Carver, 3 posts later: I dunno why people are talking about Hulk

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Hulk made Guido one-shot himself.

And he did one-shot Warpath.

As for Wolverine, he needed to land multiple punches, as there was no other way to overload his healing factor. A single punch, no matter how powerful, won't do more than turning Logan's organs to jelly - something that always happens when he's facing strong bricks. Recovering from that isn't the problem. Repeating the feat several (or dozens of) times - now that's when the hf begins to fail, as it doesn't run on infinite energy.

You are a moron, carver.

I specifically said speed with Guido, too.

Hulk told him to stop dancing around - Guido was too agile for him, lol.

As for the repeated punches, sure. But he still didn't do it in two, or three. And this was AFTER Hulk had already smashed him into the forest.

But I digress. The main point here, is that he didn't do anything to a full powered Juggy. The same Juggy who was matching him in strength, which is bang on topic.

I mean, we even saw what happened with a depowered Juggy - WWH had zero issues in punching him. Yet, when Juggy is back to normal..... WWH was all oh actually I have no time for this.

Reminds me of Carv, actually 😂

Too agile or too skilled/experienced.

As Talbot (yes, from your Gamma Corps) does mention how he has the edge in skill over WWH.

As for the repeated punches, sure. But he still didn't do it in two, or three. And this was AFTER Hulk had already smashed him into the forest.

We could also nitpick how Wolverine is a superhero workaholic - confirmed in volume 3 by Aaron - and his mutant power is never working at 100% because of that.

Some would disregard it, but... during that particular "era" of Marvel comics, Wolverine was REALLY busy. Being on at least two teams and having solo adventures + guest appearances of all kinds.

So we have both the in-universe acknowledgement of that and the sheer number of comics involving Wolverine released on the regular basis back then.

Astonishing team was assembled and probably returning from some mission, safe to assume.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The main point here, is that he didn't do anything to a full powered Juggy.

He delivered a nice uppercut punch.

Other than that, strength-testing and bfr, nothing much.

I wouldn't say too experienced...A: Hulk has been punching things for longer than Guido, and B: he'd just come back from a gladiator planet where he'd been fighting every day or whatever, and had fight training from Hiroim etc.

Nobody fights better than Hulk at brawling. It's what he does.

As for agility..... I mean.....sure, Guido is deceptively agile for his size etc, but let's not make him out to be Grayson lol.

Hulk *should* have the experience advantage, but because of his multiple personality disorder, you can never be too sure.

Gamma. Maths.

Yet couldn't catch Strong Guy, lmao. Pak really dropped the ball there.