Boris Johnson

Started by jaden_2.030 pages

Originally posted by Darth Thor
I'd be careful of being too critical on that point, as benefits tend to attract fraud, which is why that's traditionally been a right wing talking point.

Besides the opposition wanted more furlough for the self employed, and the example Starmer brought up in Parliament when interviewed later, we found out he didn't get anything because he was declaring losses the last few years. If you gave it to people like that, it would just reward those who had probably been evading taxes, IOW it would be directly helping fraudsters.

But HMRC does go back and check on people who claimed it so it's their risk to take.

Hmm

Difference with benefit fraud is it's almost non-existent because it has measures built in to prevent. The furlough had little to no practices put into place to mitigate for that and this was raised in parliament and was effectively ignored.

This is also not taking into consideration the enormous sums of money that were wasted on his watch in other aspects of the pandemic that I already mentioned. We can't expect a large number of the same cabinet ministers that were under Boris Johnson to suddenly become remotely competent under a different leader.

So far there's obviously
Rishi Sunak
Dominic Rabb
Suella Braverman
James Cleverly
Ben Wallace
Therese Coffey
Johnny Mercer
Oliver Dowden
Steve Barcley
Michael Gove
Alistair Jack
Simon Hart
Robert Jenrick
Gavin Williamson

I'm sure there's more that I'm forgetting.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Difference with benefit fraud is it's almost non-existent because it has measures built in to prevent. The furlough had little to no practices put into place to mitigate for that and this was raised in parliament and was effectively ignored.

It happened a lot under the Blair government, because they were generous with it. A lot less now because Tory's are stingy with it. But people still do take advantage at every opportunity. It's simply a side effect of it and that's under a system that has been in place for decades. Obviously Furlough had to be rolled out in a rush.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
This is also not taking into consideration the enormous sums of money that were wasted on his watch in other aspects of the pandemic that I already mentioned. We can't expect a large number of the same cabinet ministers that were under Boris Johnson to suddenly become remotely competent under a different leader.

So far there's obviously
Rishi Sunak
Dominic Rabb
Suella Braverman
James Cleverly
Ben Wallace
Therese Coffey
Johnny Mercer
Oliver Dowden
Steve Barcley
Michael Gove
Alistair Jack
Simon Hart
Robert Jenrick
Gavin Williamson

I'm sure there's more that I'm forgetting.

Just to be clear I don't support the Tories. But neither am I excited for Starmer to get a 500 seat dictatorship for the next 15 to 20 years.

Yeah, anyone wanna discuss alternative voting again....? Or are Labour just going to claim victory like they did in '97.

Originally posted by Darth Thor

Just to be clear I don't support the Tories. But neither am I excited for Starmer to get a 500 seat dictatorship for the next 15 to 20 years.

Can't be any worse than the last 12. Country's a laughing stock and a total shambles. Even Diane Abbott would be more competent with the economy at this point.

Well...perhaps not 😆

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Can't be any worse than the last 12. Country's a laughing stock and a total shambles. Even Diane Abbott would be more competent with the economy at this point.

Well...perhaps not 😆

We're not a laughing stock and Diane Abbot is a moron.

You just hate her cos she's black and doesn't have a còck

No, it's because she can't do maths and talks out of her ass.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
It happened a lot under the Blair government, because they were generous with it. A lot less now because Tory's are stingy with it. But people still do take advantage at every opportunity. It's simply a side effect of it and that's under a system that has been in place for decades. Obviously Furlough had to be rolled out in a rush.

Just to be clear I don't support the Tories. But neither am I excited for Starmer to get a 500 seat dictatorship for the next 15 to 20 years.

by the end of those 15 to 20 years we'll be back on the EU gravy train, if they'll have us.

Nah. If anything, Ireland will leave the EU and resolve the only problem we had in leaving... a land border.

Originally posted by Macklemore
Nah. If anything, Ireland will leave the EU

It could happen...

"Opinion polls held in the country between 2017 and 2022 indicated between 70% and 90% support for continued membership of the European Union" -snip

So around 80% average in favor on staying. That's the majority. /maths

And on that note.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/987347/brexit-opinion-poll/

Got bamboozled.

Oh, is Liz Truss out of politics now, or does she go back to what she was doing before being in-party elected as PM?

I'm trying to find a simple solution, guys!

We can't exactly reverse our decision after all this rhetoric...

TBF, I don't think the EU would take you back.

Just a case of saying we took an unpleasant detour down far right avenue and racism, we want to be better now.

Whirly, you're Irish.

Originally posted by Macklemore
Whirly, you're Irish.
quarter traveller, only Irish enough to get a passport lol.

Sunak is going to reverse the fracking policy ... This is not going to end well...