Originally posted by carver9
He outright states he feel as powerful as he did before. I don't think it can get any clearer than that. I could post him losing to Wolverine, failing to take out Spiderman, having a prolong fight against meta Ares but I think this is sufficient.
He outright states he can do everything and anything.
So he's omnipotent there. Beyonder, Odin, TOBA....doesn't matter. Herc there is capable of everything and anything.
Can't get clearer than that. Good scan.
Originally posted by carver9
If that's how you want to take it. All I know is, he have Spiderman powers and he admits it feels just as powerful as his godly self. Him feeling that he is capable of anything just seals the deal on Spiderman being>Herc.
So rather than admit it could just be hyperbole, you want to double down and say that Spiderman is omnipotent, lmao.
I mean, if you agree that, then sure, omnipotent Spider-Man would also be > Glads and Hulk and WW combined lmao.
Originally posted by carver9
Lmao... I got something even better. Hercules admitted on panel that with him having SPIDERMAN powers, it's much closer to the power he had before he was depowered. Never mind one shotting a meta (who in that comic wasn't represented as a meta but whatever), Hercules outright states Spiderman = him during his Devine days...Enjoy
You're an idiot.
After Chaos War, Hercules used all his power to restore things, bring a bunch of people back to life, restore Olympus to it's former glory and as a result he was powerless. POWERLESS, however he could still hear the prayers of his followers.
Fast Forward past Fear Itself, he was bitten by a bed bug and was once again a empowered albeit with Spider-Mans powers. This is why he said it's the closet he felt to his godhood.
You took a scan completely out of context without knowing the complete backstory in a gotcha attempt that ultimately went nowhere.
Try harder.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
You're an idiot.After Chaos War, Hercules used all his power to restore things, bring a bunch of people back to life, restore Olympus to it's former glory and as a result he was powerless. POWERLESS, however he could still hear the prayers of his followers.
Fast Forward past Fear Itself, he was bitten by a bed bug and was once again a empowered albeit with Spider-Mans powers. This is why he said it's the closet he felt to his godhood.
You took a scan completely out of context without knowing the complete backstory in a gotcha attempt that ultimately went nowhere.
Try harder.
That's not what he said lmmfao. He said he never felt so close to his divinity? How you interpreted anything else different from that and then result in insulting when you couldn't even read a simple scan is laughable. At least Darksaint is trying to find a better way of debunking it.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So rather than admit it could just be hyperbole, you want to double down and say that Spiderman is omnipotent, lmao.I mean, if you agree that, then sure, omnipotent Spider-Man would also be > Glads and Hulk and WW combined lmao.
I'm listening to what Herc said about him being close to his former self. People always say they feel like they can do anything. It doesn't take away from Herc saying he feels as powerful as his previous self.
Originally posted by carver9
I'm listening to what Herc said about him being close to his former self. People always say they feel like they can do anything. It doesn't take away from Herc saying he feels as powerful as his previous self.
So why not accept it? That he is capable of doing everything, capable of doing anything? Is Herc right when he says this?
If not, why is this wrong and the other sentences right?
I'm telling you that everyone says this when they receive a power-up, they feel like they can do anything (points to Juggernaut when he got his power back after the Onslaught saga). A person should be able to tell if they are more powerful or not and Hercules felt more powerful than his previous self. Statements like that get thrown around all of the time.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
And even then....it's obviously Herc getting drunk on power, and using hyperbole.
He even uses the term draught ... hence drunk on power. and this is after being depowered for a whole event
Originally posted by carver9
That's not what he said lmmfao. He said he never felt so close to his divinity? How you interpreted anything else different from that and then result in insulting when you couldn't even read a simple scan is laughable. At least Darksaint is trying to find a better way of debunking it.
Hercules was the most powerful Skyfather in existence at that point. He restored everything that Chaos King destroyed. Then he was depowered for quite awhile...then he got a boost to Spiderman level. So if course it's hyperbole. Noone is this stupid
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Originally posted by Sin I AM
He even uses the term draught ... hence drunk on power. and this is after being depowered for a whole eventHercules was the most powerful Skyfather in existence at that point. He restored everything that Chaos King destroyed. Then he was depowered for quite awhile...then he got a boost to Spiderman level. So if course it's hyperbole. Noone is this stupid
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He's not talking about his skyfather powers, he is talking about his Hercules powers which is the reason he mentions after this him being able to return back to Zeus. Just go paint your nails Sin and leave this to Dark.
Originally posted by carver9
I'm telling you that everyone says this when they receive a power-up, they feel like they can do anything (points to Juggernaut when he got his power back after the Onslaught saga). A person should be able to tell if they are more powerful or not and Hercules felt more powerful than his previous self. Statements like that get thrown around all of the time.
Right right. So hyperbole. Thanks.
It's like a crippled Usain Bolt suddenly getting legs again....sure, he's not at the level he once was, but when you're starting from rock bottom, just having legs is a massive step up.
A human, mortal Herc suddenly getting *some* powers means he's now much closer to his powered self. Because he has, you know, powers. Just like Bolt having legs.
Doesn't mean he's suddenly back to his former self. If it DOES feel like it, then that's hyperbole - he feels like he can do anything and do everything.
Glad we all agree it's hyperbole. Good scan, though, I liked the art
He said since the end of Chaos War...at the end of Chaos War he was Skyfather+. Up until that point in your little scan he had already turned Zeus down TWICE in restoring his powers in the same storyline. The whole sequence after was an allegory or jab to Spiderman and his constant angst ridden sequences where he's always conflicted with what to do. He solves this as he does all his problems by drinking.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Right right. So hyperbole. Thanks.It's like a crippled Usain Bolt suddenly getting legs again....sure, he's not at the level he once was, but when you're starting from rock bottom, just having legs is a massive step up.
A human, mortal Herc suddenly getting *some* powers means he's now much closer to his powered self. Because he has, you know, powers. Just like Bolt having legs.
Doesn't mean he's suddenly back to his former self. If it DOES feel like it, then that's hyperbole - he feels like he can do anything and do everything.
Glad we all agree it's hyperbole. Good scan, though, I liked the art
Nope, not hyperbole. Him saying anything and everything have a completely different meaning with him saying he feels as powerful as Hercules. Him mentioning that he feels powerful enough to defeats Apollo and powerful enough to be amongst the God's.
Originally posted by carver9
He said since the end of Chaos war he feared that he would never feel so close to his FORMER, F.O.R.M.E.R Devinity again. 🤦🏿
Sigh....so in your mind youve determined that Hercules is saying his Spider-Mans powers are greater than his typical immortal powers, class 100 strength, durability, stamina etc? That's the stance you're rolling with?
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Sigh....so in your mind youve determined that Hercules is saying his Spider-Mans powers are greater than his typical immortal powers, class 100 strength, durability, stamina etc? That's the stance you're rolling with?
If he feels capable of doing anything and everything, yeah I'd say the same thing. Carver is right, at that point Herc was omnipotent thanks to Spideys powers.
Imagine if Herc had the best chance to stop WWH.....Venom/Carnage would have annihilated WWH. Morlun would've eaten WWH in pure h2h.