Gladiator vs Hercules

Originally posted by carver9
That's what Herc said. Blame him, not me.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
If he feels capable of doing anything and everything, yeah I'd say the same thing. Carver is right, at that point Herc was omnipotent thanks to Spideys powers.

Imagine if Herc had the best chance to stop WWH.....Venom/Carnage would have annihilated WWH. Morlun would've eaten WWH in pure h2h.

There's only so much stupid I can stomach for one day

Originally posted by Sin I AM
That's not what he said, that's how you interpreted it. Huge difference...you take statements wayyyy to literally.

There's only so much stupid I can stomach for one day

You're the only one saying he isn't saying that. This is why I am saying you need to leave this to Dark. He's doing a much better job at this.

It's crazy you're calling someone stupid but you can't even comprehend a simple sentence. It's sad tbh.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He said he can do everything and do anything. So he's right?

Focus on the sentence that matters.

Who wrote the rules on what to focus on and what not to? He said those words, didn't he? He is capable of anything.... capable of everything. Don't blame me, blame the writer.

Herc was omnipotent there, thanks to Spideys powers. You can't be hypocritical and pick and choose, can you, Carv?

Originally posted by carver9
You're the only one saying he isn't saying that. This is why I am saying you need to leave this to Dark. He's doing a much better job at this.

It's crazy you're calling someone stupid but you can't even comprehend a simple sentence. It's sad tbh.

Not at all. You're just an idiot and dark likes playing mind games. Low hanging fruit if you will. Noone other than the other usual idiots (you, jbl, etc) thinks that Herc is saying Spiderman powers are greater than his powers. He's saying SM powers are greater than having no powers.

So you attempt to save face and keep the back and forth going instead of proving me wrong

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Not at all. You're just an idiot and dark likes playing mind games. Low hanging fruit if you will. Noone other than the other usual idiots (you, jbl, etc) thinks that Herc is saying Spiderman powers are greater than his powers. He's saying SM powers are greater than having no powers.

So you attempt to save face and keep the back and forth going instead of proving me wrong

This is just sad. I'm no longer partaking in this conversation with you. I feel sympathy more than anything in this discussion. You have flipped your stance 3 times. Bye Sin. Now let me see what Dark is saying.

Gladiator isn't as strong as Hulk and Hype combined and he's not that far above Thor if at all.

Destroyer fought Jane an entire comic and Glads and his kid got soloed in seconds.

"The power"

Problem with Hype is that there are great many different versions of him.

Even NOW... which Hype Ben meant, exactly? Mephisto's Hype, Heroes Reborn II variant (which was also Mephisto's creation, I believe) or Hickman's Hype? Or maybe some other?

Their fight in Quasar comic got it right, with them being equals, but Glads having the experience advantage.

Most Superman clones are meant to operate at similar levels.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Gladiator isn't as strong as Hulk and Hype combined and he's not that far above Thor if at all.

Destroyer fought Jane an entire comic and Glads and his kid got soloed in seconds.

"The power"

My issue is he doesn't have the feats to suggest it. Not with what was said. Comics characters make wild statements all the time only for them to be completely the opposite.

ABC doesn't work though. Destroyer wrecked glads and kid glads, Jane got choked out by glads, Jane fought destroyer better, glads got beat up by Shiar gods, Jane best same gods, destroyer lost to mango, Jane beat mango. Shit like that

Originally posted by carver9
This is just sad. I'm no longer partaking in this conversation with you. I feel sympathy more than anything in this discussion. You have flipped your stance 3 times. Bye Sin. Now let me see what Dark is saying.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Problem with Hype is that there are great many different versions of him.

Even NOW... which Hype Ben meant, exactly? Mephisto's Hype, Heroes Reborn II variant (which was also Mephisto's creation, I believe) or Hickman's Hype? Or maybe some other?

Their fight in Quasar comic got it right, with them being equals, but Glads having the experience advantage.

Most Superman clones are meant to operate at similar levels.

gladiator fought hyperion at a weird age where marvel heralds were super weak

gladiator was a supreme jobber back, and that version of hyperion wasn't even low herald level

it's not till recent days that gladiator racked up impressive feats, and hickman portrayed a new complete different hyperion

Not really.

Gladiator has some of the best feats from that era.

They were fighting at nanoseconds speed and were described as cosmic forces fighting each other on more than just a sheer physical plane.

Hickman is not capable of coming up with anything new.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Not really.

Gladiator has some of the best feats from that era.

They were fighting at nanoseconds speed and were described as cosmic forces fighting each other on more than just a sheer physical plane.

Hickman is not capable of coming up with anything new.

I don't know about entertaining.

Plenty of bad writers out there who can still entertain us, somehow.

Hickman tries to tell complex stories, full of hype, but ultimately fails to deliver.

Original Secret Wars was meant to be nothing more than a toy promotion comic series... and Shooter surprised everyone and achieved much more than that.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I don't know about entertaining.

Plenty of bad writers out there who can still entertain us, somehow.

Hickman tries to tell complex stories, full of hype, but ultimately fails to deliver.

Original Secret Wars was meant to be nothing more than a toy promotion comic series... and Shooter surprised everyone and achieved much more than that.

Original secret wars has its moments but is mostly a bit shit imo.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Have you noticed Hackman uses very good artists to cover up his shortcomings?

Yes.

Now that you mention it, it's really his m.o.

Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Original secret wars has its moments but is mostly a bit shit imo.

To each his own.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Yes.

Now that you mention it, it's really his m.o.

To each his own.

Lmao. People still crying and insulting others just because thing and reed said Gladiator is stronger than Hulk and Hyperion COMBINED. Sin runs her mouth about Masterson thor being (Thor light) when people with reading comprehension know full well that masterson Thor had the full strength and weather control powers of the original Thor. Sin is ignorant enough to not understand that in a comic book, characters will not be portrayed to operate at full capacity all the time. Sin if ignorant enough not to understand the difference between a comic book fight and a battle board fight. Sin knows nothing about the character Gladiator nor Hercules. Sin claim that gladiator has done nothing that would suggest he's stronger than Hercules. Sin Runs her mouth about Colossus standing up to Gladiator in one comic book instance, but have no idea that in another comic book all the X-Men combined couldn't even put a scratch on Gladiator. Sin doesn't know that gladiator contained and explosion that would have destroyed half the solar system. Collapsing stars, ripping apart black holes with his bare hands. Destroyed a planet with his fist. I would love to see Hercules take Gladiators place in all those feats.

Originally posted by JBL
Lmao. People still crying and insulting others just because thing and reed said Gladiator is stronger than Hulk and Hyperion COMBINED. Sin runs her mouth about Masterson thor being (Thor light) when people with reading comprehension know full well that masterson Thor had the full strength and weather control powers of the original Thor. Sin is ignorant enough to not understand that in a comic book, characters will not be portrayed to operate at full capacity all the time. Sin if ignorant enough not to understand the difference between a comic book fight and a battle board fight. Sin knows nothing about the character Gladiator nor Hercules. Sin claim that gladiator has done nothing that would suggest he's stronger than Hercules. Sin Runs her mouth about Colossus standing up to Gladiator in one comic book instance, but have no idea that in another comic book all the X-Men combined couldn't even put a scratch on Gladiator. Sin doesn't know that gladiator contained and explosion that would have destroyed half the solar system. Collapsing stars, ripping apart black holes with his bare hands. Destroyed a planet with his fist. I would love to see Hercules take Gladiators place in all those feats.

Feel better... you're still wrong by the way but I want you to get it off your chest

Sin wants you to be happy.

Originally posted by JBL
Lmao. People still crying and insulting others just because thing and reed said Gladiator is stronger than Hulk and Hyperion COMBINED. Sin runs her mouth about Masterson thor being (Thor light) when people with reading comprehension know full well that masterson Thor had the full strength and weather control powers of the original Thor. Sin is ignorant enough to not understand that in a comic book, characters will not be portrayed to operate at full capacity all the time. Sin if ignorant enough not to understand the difference between a comic book fight and a battle board fight. Sin knows nothing about the character Gladiator nor Hercules. Sin claim that gladiator has done nothing that would suggest he's stronger than Hercules. Sin Runs her mouth about Colossus standing up to Gladiator in one comic book instance, but have no idea that in another comic book all the X-Men combined couldn't even put a scratch on Gladiator. Sin doesn't know that gladiator contained and explosion that would have destroyed half the solar system. Collapsing stars, ripping apart black holes with his bare hands. Destroyed a planet with his fist. I would love to see Hercules take Gladiators place in all those feats.