Originally posted by carver9
Post didn't make one bit of sense. Wonder Woman would never get up off the ground and choke Superman to sleep with one arm. Juggernaut would never get off the ground and choke Thanos to sleep with one arm. Rogue would never get up off the ground and choke Thor to sleep with one arm. Want to know why? Because these people are powerful enough to get out of an attack like that, especially with one arm. Jane couldn't do a thing and she was helpless and got put to sleep.Why are you mentioning Sentry?
They chose Jane because of Mjlonir. She had the tools for the Phoenix ForcFORCE. Trying to understand what this have to do with Gladiator getting up off the ground and one hand choking her like she was nothing. You can try to throw out context all you want but none of the people above would get choked out the same way by the people I mentioned above for obvious reasons.
I didn't bring up Sentry.
I didn't bring up Wonder Woman
I didn't bring up Superman
I didn't bring up Thanos
I didn't bring up Juggernaut
I didn't bring up Rogue....you know why? They're not in this thread
They chose Jane because she was better. I'm glad you agree.
I already said she was choked out after his son got her off his ass. An assist is an assist
Now can you explain why a high herald couldn't one shot a low meta when he's stronger than hulk and Hyperion combined and traveled faster than light in the blink of a god's eye?
Originally posted by Sin I AMHe didn't one shot him because that was NOT part of the story. This is a battle board, not a comic book, in the comics characters that should lose their heads fighting ultra strong characters don't go down because of a story. On a battle board they would get killed almost instantly fighting certain characters. Gladiator would one shot kill Colossus on a battle board because there's no writer to save him.
I didn't bring up Sentry.
I didn't bring up Wonder Woman
I didn't bring up Superman
I didn't bring up Thanos
I didn't bring up Juggernaut
I didn't bring up Rogue....you know why? They're not in this threadThey chose Jane because she was better. I'm glad you agree.
I already said she was choked out after his son got her off his ass. An assist is an assist
Now can you explain why a high herald couldn't one shot a low meta when he's stronger than hulk and Hyperion combined and traveled faster than light in the blink of a god's eye?
Originally posted by -Pr-
Also, as regards this:Claremont ****ed up. Colossus isn't supposed to get tired/worn out in metal form.
Boosted stamina/endurance doesn't mean he can ignore the cumulative effects of superhuman blows.
Even with the power of Cyttorak on top of his own, he didn't have such luxury.
Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Boosted stamina/endurance doesn't mean he can ignore the cumulative effects of superhuman blows.Even with the power of Cyttorak on top of his own, he didn't have such luxury.
I considered that, and honestly I'm not sure. I mean, if we suppose that Claremont always intended to write Colossus as having bones/blood/muscles in metal form, I'd be all right with it. But I'm not sure he did.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
I didn't bring up Sentry.
I didn't bring up Wonder Woman
I didn't bring up Superman
I didn't bring up Thanos
I didn't bring up Juggernaut
I didn't bring up Rogue....you know why? They're not in this threadThey chose Jane because she was better. I'm glad you agree.
I already said she was choked out after his son got her off his ass. An assist is an assist
Now can you explain why a high herald couldn't one shot a low meta when he's stronger than hulk and Hyperion combined and traveled faster than light in the blink of a god's eye?
You did bring up Sentry. I brought those people up for a reason (common sense reason).
They chose Jane because of Mjlonir and plot. Did you read the comic?
Superboy could assist Captain Marvel in a fight against Thanos and she would never get off the ground and choke Thanos to sleep with one hand because Thanos is too strong (stronger than her) and far more powerful. Do I need to make a thread so that people can assist you with common sense?
What meta didn't he ko? Also, just know that I am going to use this against you with Hercules (and any other character that didn't one shot a meta).
Originally posted by carver9
You did bring up Sentry. I brought those people up for a reason (common sense reason).They chose Jane because of Mjlonir and plot. Did you read the comic?
Superboy could assist Captain Marvel in a fight against Thanos and she would never get off the ground and choke Thanos to sleep with one hand because Thanos is too strong (stronger than her) and far more powerful. Do I need to make a thread so that people can assist you with common sense?
What meta didn't he ko? Also, just know that I am going to use this against you with Hercules (and any other character that didn't one shot a meta).
She didn't bring Sentry up. You just can't read.
Originally posted by carver9
You did bring up Sentry. I brought those people up for a reason (common sense reason).They chose Jane because of Mjlonir and plot. Did you read the comic?
Superboy could assist Captain Marvel in a fight against Thanos and she would never get off the ground and choke Thanos to sleep with one hand because Thanos is too strong (stronger than her) and far more powerful. Do I need to make a thread so that people can assist you with common sense?
What meta didn't he ko? Also, just know that I am going to use this against you with Hercules (and any other character that didn't one shot a meta).
Are you confused?
Now I'm confused.
Heimdell. You'd have to use the exact same circumstances then. Show me a non holding back herald, flying over two galaxies in the blink of a god's eye and failing to ko a meta. Compare that to the only one other close example but he's trans tier or higher and he knocked out a multiversal being.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Are you confused?Now I'm confused.
Heimdell. You'd have to use the exact same circumstances then. Show me a non holding back herald, flying over two galaxies in the blink of a god's eye and failing to ko a meta. Compare that to the only one other close example but he's trans tier or higher and he knocked out a multiversal being.
Lmao... I got something even better. Hercules admitted on panel that with him having SPIDERMAN powers, it's much closer to the power he had before he was depowered. Never mind one shotting a meta (who in that comic wasn't represented as a meta but whatever), Hercules outright states Spiderman = him during his Devine days...
Enjoy
Originally posted by carver9
Lmao... I got something even better. Hercules admitted on panel that with him having SPIDERMAN powers, it's much closer to the power he had before he was depowered. Never mind one shotting a meta (who in that comic wasn't represented as a meta but whatever), Hercules outright states Spiderman = him during his Devine days...Enjoy
A: so you are ignoring your mistake. Ok.
B: if you are taking his words at face value (I'm sure you are) then you accept Herc here can do EVERYTHING/ANYTHING (I.e. he is Omnipotent there), right? Otherwise you are being a hypocrite lmao.