Superman vs. Gladiator, Hyperion, Sentry and Count Nefaria

Started by Endless Mike39 pages
Originally posted by JBL
It will take light hours to catch up to him, this is the fastest he has EVER flown. And he was amped by multiple Suns. Flash borrowed speed to reach the speed of light instantly, Superman was a statue and flash said none of them could help him because he knew none of them could reach that speed that quick. Superman ram the shadow Moon and Batman said he rarely does this and he was only going just under the speed of light. These are instances where it actually give you a time frame and numbers about Supermans speed and they are so far behind Gladiator It is ridiculous.

Just to clarify, in the shadow moon incident he was deliberately going slower than light because he needed to build up relativistic KE in order to smash it.

And worth noting that scan specifically stated Superman can go FTL if he want to

https://ibb.co/7K2FZt3

Originally posted by JBL
It will take light hours to catch up to him, this is the fastest he has EVER flown. And he was amped by multiple Suns. Flash borrowed speed to reach the speed of light instantly, Superman was a statue and flash said none of them could help him because he knew none of them could reach that speed that quick. Superman ram the shadow Moon and Batman said he rarely does this and he was only going just under the speed of light. These are instances where it actually give you a time frame and numbers about Supermans speed and they are so far behind Gladiator It is ridiculous.

The fastest he's flown? What?

So Superman was slower when he traveled from the end of the universe in a matter of days? Do you know how long it would take light to travel that far? Would it take a light beam less than a few hours to catch up or more than a billion years to catch up?

So Superman was slower when he traveled more than a mile in a femptosecond? How far would light travel in a femptosecond?

H1, really, stop adding that 'p' lol. It really shows you're not quite as au fait with the terms as you think you are.

You really think that mispelling shit is his only problem? 😛

It's almost as bad as carver's OMNI and ABHI.

Originally posted by Endless Mike
There are plenty of reasons why two characters fighting won't always end up the same way. In fact, it's realistic for a fight to end in a loss sometimes, and in a win other times. That's generally how it is in real life, unless the disparity in power/skill is enormous. Some people seem to have the idea that if someone is even slightly stronger/faster/better than their opponent, they will win 100% of the time, and that makes no sense IMO.

You are correct in thinking this way, but track record speaks volumes. Gladiator simply does not have the the track record to compete with Superman. With common knowledge, Superman would never lose to Anni-Hulk if we are using him to the best of his on panel ability.

Superman usually comes through in clutch moment, whereas the same can not be said of the others. Sentry has a better record than Gladiator, but the same can not be said of Hyperion, and even less for Count Nefaria.

In character Superman would know exactly who he was up against, and the differences between them in terms of power sets. Are we going to argue that Superman has very little experience with crowd control, or that his fighting skills are worse than this groups?

Hyperion is a neophyte in terms of combat experience. This guy literally has little to no combat experience. Count Nefaria? This guy mirrors Hyperion but may actually be a worse fighter. He depends on the fact that he’s still far faster than the average human, and has always fallen back on his powers taking him through the fight. Which Avenger back in the day was as fast as the Count? If you said Thor, good luck with that.

Sentry? Bob is not one ever will be praised in Matisse for his fighting ability. He after all flies face first into fists. So he gets fisted in those regards. No I’m not clowning on the Sentry. It is what it is. But, what Bob lacks in experience, he can just pretend that the last punch that he received did not hurt, and if it does, he’ll just believe that he never was hurt., or however he feels psychologically at that moment. He can be extremely dangerous as seen when he Voids out.

Going by his performance in World War Hulk, which is the version of the Sentry that is being used here, Superman can absolutely weather the storm that the Hulk was able to. Since he would know about Bob’s condition, he’d simply have to talk him down.

Make no mistake though, the clones themselves would be beaten rather quickly. Sentry isn’t one of the clones.

I was trying to say that Robert Reynolds as of now, will never be praised for being a martial artist in magazines. Because after all, he flies face first into fists. Superman has done this before as well, but he was being cocky. This is not the norm for him.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
H1, really, stop adding that 'p' lol. It really shows you're not quite as au fait with the terms as you think you are.

Lol

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...she beats Superman by wrapping him up and beating him unconcious.

But she can't beat Hulk unconscious, can she?

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Just to clarify, in the shadow moon incident he was deliberately going slower than light because he needed to build up relativistic KE in order to smash it.

JBL and Carter forget that Gladiator has much more embarrassing showings.

He needed to be amped to reach North California Coast from New York in two minutes. That's barely Mach 100 lol

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Wait, Philosophia just claim that he's read every single appearance of Superman ever? Is that even possible? That has to be tens of thousands of comics.
Wait. Philosophia can read?

Wait, philosophia?

So far the marvel side is getting destroyed

Originally posted by Philosophia

The reason I'm using warm-ups is because I have read all of the appearances, ever, of any character in this thread -- so I know all of their feats.

Originally posted by h1a8
The fastest he's flown? What?

So Superman was slower when he traveled from the end of the universe in a matter of days? Do you know how long it would take light to travel that far? Would it take a light beam less than a few hours to catch up or more than a billion years to catch up?

So Superman was slower when he traveled more than a mile in a femptosecond? How far would light travel in a femptosecond?

I thought the edge of the Universe showing was debunked? Brainiac messed with Superman mind and he didn't know wtf was going on during that instance.

Originally posted by abhilegend
But she can't beat Hulk unconscious, can she?

Wouldn't she have to beat him unconcious in order to win? I literally said she can beat Hulk and you're worried about how, lmao. Just know, she knocks Superman tf out.

😂

Originally posted by carver9
Wouldn't she have to beat him unconcious in order to win? I literally said she can beat Hulk and you're worried about how, lmao. Just know, she knocks Superman tf out.

What about Sacrifice? What happens if Superman really wants to win against Diana? I would be far more inclined to agree with you if she somehow had telepathic, or empathic abilities allowing for her to see into the future. However she can’t do that.

@Stoic...

Wonder Woman vs God Superman who was amped off of infinite energy.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/comicnewbies.com/2015/12/30/superman-vs-wonder-woman-darkseid-war/amp/

Also, Diana beat Superman in Sacrifice while holding back which is the reason why Superman likers try to exempt the showing (lets not even forget about him being sun amped as well). This is how the fight in sacrifice ended between Supes and Wonder Woman...

https://imgur.io/V3NWfdu

All she had to do was press her attack but she decided to kill Max instead.