Originally posted by JBL
Stoic, it's basic knowledge that the HERO of a story will get knocked down, beaten and then for the sake of a story, BE WRITTEN TO WIN. You keep running to anni-hulk, well if you want to go that route. Superman got nearly killed by a team of avengers that Count nefaria wrecked.( Similar team) WW has beaten superman yet lost to Storm, lobo has beaten Superman, yet lost to wolverine. Sentry beat molecule man, Gladiator rocked Galactus. Superman got knocked out by a gas station explosion and from ramming a shadow Moon since you want to go that route. Some of these characters in this thread will beat Superman by themselves. Together it's a massacre.
You’re piecing this together improperly. Going the route of reasoning that you suggest ignores forum rules.
We are using the characters at their very not holding back best as are battle opinions argued from. Again, this is them at their very best. Gladiator’s very best is showing Cannonball who was boss. Gladiator has been used as the hero of the Shiar. Let’s talk about that for a moment.
In all of the strongest opponents that Gladiator has faced, who has he defeated on the level of a Darkseid avatar, H’el, Cyborg Superman, DOS Doomsday, Mongul? In my opinion they would all lynch Gladiator within the first 5 minutes; and for some, that number may as well have been an eternity compared to the weakest among them.
Anni-Hulk would be an average opponent of Superman’s. Rogol Zaar would be a decent match for Anni-Hulk on a power scale. That’s just one example. Darkseid Avatars would string Gladiator up face down. Even if he went Gladiator came in swingin like his life depended on it, he’d be moments away from a crippling blow that he would not recover from, which is not the way Superman rolls. Superman is powered by a star that mends his wounds, granting him near inexhaustible stamina under normal conditions.
None of these guys can duplicate this. Supreme can, but he isn’t in this thread, speaking of which, was Supreme even in the correct frame of mind? I forget. Was that even canon? Well it doesn’t really matter, because Gladiator cannot take hits that are more powerful than he can give. He pretty much has always been folded when faced against shit that was bigger than him. Hulk bullied him. Thor put the hammer on him, Cannonball blew his mind, which resulted in a tap-out, Gambit chased any amount of gas that he had in his stomach out by way of his ass, resulting in, you guessed it Gladiator taking another nap, even within alternate universe like the one that the Exiles Surfer turned him into ham, while the Phoenix Five had their way with him, any one member of that team would have turned him into meat, and the famous Anni-Hulk mugging happened. Did I miss any of his other heroic showings? Yoeah he did school Hyperion the untrained super strong muscle guy that tops out at Namor, because if Namor was as durable against atomic vision as Doomsday would be, that fight would have likely gone a different direction.
