Superman vs. Gladiator, Hyperion, Sentry and Count Nefaria

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Well he does sort of have a point - jobbing is a thing that happens in comics. But you can't just declare any feats or showings you personally don't like to be jobbing, especially if they are done consistently.

Characters often scale to whoever they are fighting in a comic. For example, Hulk will scale down to about 1.5-3x Thing level when fighting Thing. Same Hulk against Colossus, Namor, and Iron Man.

But in a forum we assume Hulk has beyond 1 million tons of strength. That should theoretically make Iron Man, Thing, and Colossus less than insects.

That's why forum fights are different than actual comic fights (where we have contradictions everywhere based off the story). That's why we use full capacity.

Originally posted by h1a8
Characters often scale to whoever they are fighting in a comic. For example, Hulk will scale down to about 1.5-3x Thing level when fighting Thing. Same Hulk against Colossus, Namor, and Iron Man.

But in a forum we assume Hulk has beyond 1 million tons of strength. That should theoretically make Iron Man, Thing, and Colossus less than insects.

That's why forum fights are different than actual comic fights (where we have contradictions everywhere based off the story). That's why we use full capacity.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
[B]This is by far the stupidest phuckin post I have ever seen. [/BT]

Originally posted by -Pr-
Get help. Seriously. I'm not even being mean. You obviously need it.

Originally posted by JBL
LMAO. You do know that EVERY WRITER in comics do that. Thanks for showing your ignorance 👍

Unhuh, but the entire premise of the battle board is we base our argument off what's shown on panel. Then we use those panels to debate hypothetical scenarios. If we negate on panel showings then everything is fanfiction. It's not too difficult a concept to grasp.

Originally posted by JBL
Do you not understand that I hang with, fish with, take my son to see, DC writers and know full well how they come up with issues they are trying to sell to make money to support their families??? What I put in that previous post is their way of pleasing fans and making sales so that they can obtain financial gains. So to you should they do the opposite? Should they write Superman getting beaten and killed every issue and then having to be brought back to life? How many fans would buy those books knowing that their favorite heroes going to lose every time??

Your trolling is getting worse. Seriously. Nobody is legitimately this dense. You have to be at least a little believable if you're going to talk about how fiction is constructed.

Also, you keep saying you know DC writers. That's not a good thing. Not anymore.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Unhuh, but the entire premise of the battle board is we base our argument off what's shown on panel. Then we use those panels to debate hypothetical scenarios. If we negate on panel showings then everything is fanfiction. It's not too difficult a concept to grasp.

Originally posted by JBL
Sin, listen to me. You are right about taking on panel showings to use on a battle board, but the mistake people are making is this... They don't know how to separate what a Character can and really cannot do. So if Carver say that " the madder hulk gets, the stronger hulk gets" he can transfer that over from the comics to a battle board because that has been hulks power set for many years, so when hulk fights a stronger foe, hulk will eventually catch and surpass them and strength. Carver can use that in a better board. On the other side of the coin, Superman fights a stronger and more powerful foe that nearly kills him, YET by writers intent ignoring Superman's power set because his power set does not allow him to defeat that foe, THEY ALLOW the hero to win. You cannot transfer that over to a battle board. That goes for any hero. I go into more detail with you soon, but did you know that certain writers are planning a crossover that will put Superman up against Hulk and Thor? And DC admitted that Hulk was stronger than doomsday who is just as strong as Superman? Remember when Thor said another bout with the kryptonian will hold many surprises? Keep this statement in mind👍

Originally posted by JBL
Sin, listen to me. You are right about taking on panel showings to use on a battle board, but the mistake people are making is this... They don't know how to separate what a Character can and really cannot do. So if Carver say that " the madder hulk gets, the stronger hulk gets" he can transfer that over from the comics to a battle board because that has been hulks power set for many years, so when hulk fights a stronger foe, hulk will eventually catch and surpass them and strength. Carver can use that in a better board. On the other side of the coin, Superman fights a stronger and more powerful foe that nearly kills him, YET by writers intent ignoring Superman's power set because his power set does not allow him to defeat that foe, THEY ALLOW the hero to win. You cannot transfer that over to a battle board. That goes for any hero. I go into more detail with you soon, but did you know that certain writers are planning a crossover that will put Superman up against Hulk and Thor? And DC admitted that Hulk was stronger than doomsday who is just as strong as Superman? Remember when Thor said another bout with the kryptonian will hold many surprises? Keep this statement in mind👍

So in reality, Superman is not just supposed to beat those beings but beat them in a way that they are nothing to him. Rather, writer's write him down in order for the villain to seem to have a chance. See you have it all wrong.

Originally posted by h1a8
You claim that Superman is supposed to lose to some villains when comics have him winning instead. Actually the opposite is true (Superman is supposed to beat nearly everyone in comics but writers have him job instead).
Here's proof. There are multiple examples of Superman possessing nanosecond up to femptosecond perception times and speed. So theoretically, he's supposed to statue all of his villains except Zoom. Now he has many planetary feats all the way up to million of stellar weight feats. If none of his villains can even lift a planet then theoretically they should be an insect to Superman.

So in reality, Superman is not just supposed to beat those beings but beat them in a way that they are nothing to him. Rather, writer's write him down in order for the villain to seem to have a chance. See you have it all wrong.

Originally posted by lawest9
Because Thor SAID that doesn't make it true, heroes are like prize fighters, a lot of pride is involved, also Superman's power set varies with the particular variation but most of them place mental prohibitors in their mentality as to not cause collateral damage or someone's death and he also has his method of amping his power grade as well like sundipping.

Originally posted by JBL
False. Superman and other popular heros will be ALLOWED to beat far stronger and more powerful villains to please the readers, not because he's strong or powerful enough. If you all knew how comic books worked, I wouldn't have to explain this to you all. Comics use the same concept as hero movies or hero series. Look at some of the BS that has taken place in comics.. wolverine beating lobo, storm beating Wonder woman, SpiderMan beating fire Lord etc. Wonder woman and lobo both have beaten Superman, but lose the storm and wolverine?? That will NEVER happen on a battle board. But you all believe what you will, I'm going to watch rocky beat that big Russian in that boxing match. Even though that Russian should have killed him without writers protection. Same with comic book heros.

Originally posted by JBL
Guess you have to wait and see when Thor gets his revenge huh? I hope you don't think that Marvel won't get revenge for thor. Guess why Superman will be fighting Thor in another crossover? Thor's time to win. How I wish you all would learn the comic book business. Hopefully one day you all will.

Originally posted by JBL
False. Superman and other popular heros will be ALLOWED to beat far stronger and more powerful villains to please the readers, not because he's strong or powerful enough. If you all knew how comic books worked, I wouldn't have to explain this to you all. Comics use the same concept as hero movies or hero series. Look at some of the BS that has taken place in comics.. wolverine beating lobo, storm beating Wonder woman, SpiderMan beating fire Lord etc. Wonder woman and lobo both have beaten Superman, but lose the storm and wolverine?? That will NEVER happen on a battle board. But you all believe what you will, I'm going to watch rocky beat that big Russian in that boxing match. Even though that Russian should have killed him without writers protection. Same with comic book heros.

Originally posted by JBL
Guess you have to wait and see when Thor gets his revenge huh? I hope you don't think that Marvel won't get revenge for thor. Guess why Superman will be fighting Thor in another crossover? Thor's time to win. How I wish you all would learn the comic book business. Hopefully one day you all will.

After scandals with Ezra and Amber, DC can only hope India will buy the rights to their characters and make some use of them as punching bags (or cheap toilet paper?) for Dhruva and Nagraj.

Originally posted by h1a8
Characters often scale to whoever they are fighting in a comic. For example, Hulk will scale down to about 1.5-3x Thing level when fighting Thing. Same Hulk against Colossus, Namor, and Iron Man.

But in a forum we assume Hulk has beyond 1 million tons of strength. That should theoretically make Iron Man, Thing, and Colossus less than insects.

That's why forum fights are different than actual comic fights (where we have contradictions everywhere based off the story). That's why we use full capacity.

Actually both the Hulk and the Thing have many feats that would require a lot more than a million tons of strength.

Originally posted by h1a8
You claim that Superman is supposed to lose to some villains when comics have him winning instead. Actually the opposite is true (Superman is supposed to beat nearly everyone in comics but writers have him job instead).
Here's proof. There are multiple examples of Superman possessing nanosecond up to femptosecond perception times and speed. So theoretically, he's supposed to statue all of his villains except Zoom. Now he has many planetary feats all the way up to million of stellar weight feats. If none of his villains can even lift a planet then theoretically they should be an insect to Superman.

So in reality, Superman is not just supposed to beat those beings but beat them in a way that they are nothing to him. Rather, writer's write him down in order for the villain to seem to have a chance. See you have it all wrong.

Yep, and no one would ever purchase a comic that lasted for one panel. Drama is the driving force behind the reason that 99% of Superman foes are swept away by the power that he brings to each of his fights. I’d love to say the same thing about the clones in this thread, but it has become painfully obvious that his clones are scrubs.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, Thor is waiting for his revenge for 20 years.
In reverse, every marvel character is ALLOWED to beat everyone, they wouldn't beat Aunt May without the allowance.

A knockoff Aquaman wannabee did beat Superman. 🤷🏾‍♂️

Originally posted by carver9
A knockoff Aquaman wannabee did beat Superman. 🤷🏾‍♂️

What point are you trying to make?

Originally posted by carver9
A knockoff Aquaman wannabee did beat Superman. 🤷🏾‍♂️

Do you believe that the Aquaman wannabe would be able to repeat their performance in a typical full capacity forum match?