Abortion

Started by Darth Revan787 pages

No... What BackFire is saying, destiny is inevitable, it will happen no matter what else happens, no questions asked. So if it was REALLY the baby's destiny to do anything important, it would not be aborted in the first place for whatever reason. And the idea that the kid is "destined" for anything is the only real reasoning you have in this argument... "What if it's destined to find a cure for cancer?"... well then, it can't be aborted.

Originally posted by BackFire
"there is no comparrison to human life over animals"

Other then the fact that humans ARE animals.

Something that some people in this thread seem to be forgetting...

My opinion so don't bash me:

If you get pregnant, you shouldn't not kill the child. It didn't ask you to sleep with the guy. So don't punish it. If you don't want it, then give it to a good home or a orphange.

But you may kill it if you want, just proves how heartless and cold blooded of a murderer you are. So if you're worried about your reputation (trust me I know someone who was and had one) then either way you're screwed.

"Mary got pregnant from a kid named Tom that said he was in love
He said, "Don't worry about a thing, baby doll
I'm the man you've been dreaming of."
But 3 months later he say he won't date her or return her calls
And she swear, "God damn, if I find that man I'm cuttin' off his balls."
And then she heads for the clinic and
she gets some static walking through the door
They call her a killer, and they call her a sinner
and they call her a whore
God forbid you ever had to walk a mile in her shoes
'cause then you really might know what it's like to have to choose"

-Everlast, "What It's Like"
...

*bops D.R. on the head* quit spouting lyrics 😛

Well, it fits...

And you said "it didn't ask you to sleep with the guy." What if a woman's raped? She sure as hell didn't have a choice there.

But neither did the baby. So as I said you can give him/her to a nice family that will take care of him/her. Or just punish the innocent little living creature and killed it.

People always say that they'll give the kid up to adoption. But it's a hell of a lot harder for a mother to give up a child than most people think.

And no, I don't know this from experience, but I do know people who've gone through this.

But it's easier to kill their baby? Living with that would kill me. I could definately not live with knowing that I decided to kill another innocent human being what was forced to be brought into this hell. I could not do that ❌ sorry.

Alright, here's a scenario for all you anti-abortion folks... (kinda hypothetical 😉)

A pregnant woman finds out that if she gives birth to the baby, she will die during the process. There is a good chance (but not certain) that the baby will die as well. What should she do?
A. Have an abortion
B. Leave instructions for the baby to be adopted out to another family if it lives
And of course say why you think so 😉

Eek, DR, I dunno if you saw what I posted in my first post in this thread...but that situation hits just a little too close to home for me.

(((That is the only caes that would agree on killing the baby. the only ut is the wife's choice then. Because her life is at stake. If she feels she cann't take it, and wants to die. her choice. As I said I'm not for it or against it.

Originally posted by Darth Revan
Alright, here's a scenario for all you anti-abortion folks... (kinda hypothetical 😉)

A pregnant woman finds out that if she gives birth to the baby, she will die during the process. There is a good chance (but not certain) that the baby will die as well. What should she do?
A. Have an abortion
B. Leave instructions for the baby to be adopted out to another family if it lives
And of course say why you think so 😉

One must be female to understand and respond truely to this.... but it is my belief that if the women truly had feelings and loved the life inside her she would gladly sacrifice her life 🙂 as would most mothers... 😬 and most fathers... thats like saying would you sacrifice your two week year old to save your life?

(I am no longer replying to this. I think I have made a friend angry at me. He's not responding to my pms. I can only hope i'm wrong.)

Originally posted by RaventheOnly
😐 by tht train of thinking it is destine therefore for WW3 to occur... and that person was ment to start it... 🙂

Misread what I said. I didn't say "what if he was destined blah blah blah ect". I said "what if he was GOING to cause WW3". The wording is important here. Never said destiny.

"If you get pregnant, you shouldn't not kill the child. It didn't ask you to sleep with the guy. So don't punish it. If you don't want it, then give it to a good home or a orphange."

You make it seem as though she's got a human in her at the point of abortion. It's cells, it's not a baby. You want punishment? How about if that kid was born, left in a dumpster and then grew up not knowing his parents and having a terrible life? Yeah, sit down and try thinking before you go off on rants about why people are wrong just because you view life as ultimately sacred.

"But you may kill it if you want, just proves how heartless and cold blooded of a murderer you are. So if you're worried about your reputation (trust me I know someone who was and had one) then either way you're screwed."

No wonder women have it so bad. You have the kid and due to not wanting it, raise it badly or not at all and get bitched at. You abort the pregnancy and get bitched at.

Here's how it is right? It is bad in my opinion that some people go ****ing around and getting pregnant then getting abortions as a safety net. That IS immoral because some people are unfortunate enough not to have kids.

But you wanna talk about punishment? Don't punish the poor unfortunate woman who caught a bad break and got pregnant by accident, just coz of the idiots who abuse the right to an abortion. It's cells, it's not a baby.

Men masturbate everyday and release fluid that helps create a child, some men are infertile and can't create a child even if they come or not. So what do you want us to do? Stop releasing ourselves just because it COULD have been a kid? Get real. Here's an idea, switch roles with a young teen who got accidentally pregnant, wake up and realise you will have no free life from that point on at such a young age and then tell me your views on abortion.

-AC

Darth> Abortions shouldn’t be carried out late in the pregnancy – unless the woman’s life is in danger. Here in DK you can get one the first – I think – four months of the pregnancy. After that only when the woman’s life is in danger. At this point the foetus has developed greatly – and one should think the woman had had the necessary time to make up her mind. Makes sense to me.

FE> Ah, I’m sorry – I mistook you for someone else in the Death-Penalty thread. My mistake – and I apologise.

Yes, a foetus is undeveloped life! Undeveloped being the keyword here. Will you truly force a pregnancy on other women – who do not want the ordeal for 9 months OR the child? Do you – with the same vigour – support giving aid to starving kids in the third world as you are against abortion?
A foetus is NOT a baby! I’ll ask you… again, in a new form: What does a four week old foetus LOOK like?
And what makes a human life more important than the life of a lion? Or a squid?

Predator> No, undeveloped is the keyword here. A person who suffers a fatal accident IS someone’s daughter/son, someone’s friend, husband, wife or family. A foetus is neither.

Raven> A plant has FLESH?!?! What planet are you from? Are you gonna tell me plants have brains, too?
“it is my belief that if the women truly had feelings and loved the life inside her she would gladly sacrifice her life as would most mothers... ”
That is the most degrading comment towards women I’ve read in this thread. So, you think women are just breeding machines? Get out of the middle-ages and welcome to 2004!

“What if the baby you aborted was destined to save the world?" What if the woman was destined to save the world, but couldn’t cause she had to change diapers?

Tela> Why are you so set on PUNISHING the woman/girl who got pregnant. News-flash, a pregnancy isn’t a Hollywood comedy.

AC> Hear hear!

Originally posted by Silver Stardust
People always say that they'll give the kid up to adoption. But it's a hell of a lot harder for a mother to give up a child than most people think.

And no, I don't know this from experience, but I do know people who've gone through this.

Not being rude, so plz don't take it that way 🙂 I do know it would be very hard to give up a baby for an adoption, but...don't ya think killing a baby would be harder?

what is it, 16, or 17 days you here the heart beat? that is the beginning of life, now how many people abort before then??? prolly not many since they don't know they're pregnant yet.

AC and Omega> 👆