Really, there's not that much difference between a fully developed human heart or a mechanical pump either.
when someones heart stops pumping, what do the Doctors do??? hmmm they try to revive it, why?? It the heart isn't beating you can't live.
And when I stop pumping, the water doesn't get were it needs to go. What's your point? You can't live without your lungs either, are you going to tell me that's the beginning of life? How about the kidneys? Liver? People put special attention to the heart because it's been related to life and love, when it shouldn't have been.
The diary of an unborn child: http://www.stfrancisvernon.org/abdiary.htm
The heart doesn't matter in this context. What does matter is the brain. You are not clinically dead when your heart gives out, but when you are brain-dead. You should be making arguments regarding the brain, FE, if you want to make any sort of cogent point.
Oh, my! I can't believe someone actually used that "diary." What a hilarious showing of inept propaganda. Even the mainstream pro-life agenda doesn't stoop to arguments that weak. Wonderfully ironic! 😆
Originally posted by Fiery Eyes
The diary of an unborn child: http://www.stfrancisvernon.org/abdiary.htm
How did this unborn chid get access to a computer? Very strange.
I have no respect for Micheal Moore style plays of emotion. Attempting to guilt people into believing what you believe is for suckers. Case in point - The Passion of the Christ.
That site showed me nothing, except that someone has wild hallucinations that they are a human fetus.
It is the beginning of Life, or why would you be able to here it? when it's still in the woman?
You can hear it because it pumps blood, and it makes a sound that your ears pick up. (Is this a trick question? That seemed way too easy to answer)
Originally posted by Fiery Eyes
A heart beat is the sign of life, getting sick, missing your monthly are all signs of life starting to grow in you.
I really don't see what the fact that a woman misses her period when she gets pregnant has to do with anything.
But anyways... As somebody else already said (too lazy to scroll down and see who 😛), the brain is what gives a human a sense of being, as well as what keeps all the other stuff working. My GOD! That thing has a rudimentary heart! Never mind that it has almost no brain at all and would die within seconds if it were removed from its mother... That's just so touching that it has a heart beat! Let's pretend it's a person and actually knows it's alive!
Now the argument has shift towards what makes a fetus human. I hope some of you remenber the "gill slits," or pharyngeal pouches, actually become the thymus gland, the parathyroids, and the middle ear canals. The "tail", or coccyx, is a point of muscle attachment at the tailbone, and the yolk sac produces the first blood cells. All of these morphological phenomena are necessary stages in normal human development. Most arguments mostly touched the heart beat and the brain. Don't forget the blood cells!
Now, to clarify one thing....I'm neither Pro-life or Pro choice. To me is rather difficult to pick one and then sound stuborn by saying my Pro is the right one. Nope, sorry, that doesn't work for me. Abortion is a rather complicated issue. Now, is it the decision of abortion strickly for women? First, and foremost before a woman has to have an abortion, she has got to get pregnant. So in that case a woman defetnely needs the male semen in order to have the baby. Okay, question! Does the male (father) gets into the decision? Personally, the decision should be made by both Male and Female. Whatever their choice is....is their business! It takes two to tango. I my view the "couple" decides whether to have the baby or not.
Now, onto a more serious part. The rape case....since it is a very horrible experience in the life of the victim. I think it is more proper to apply the "womens choice" in these cases. If the victim wants to have an abortion then thats her choice. If the victim wants to keep the baby and raised the child then thats her choice. I don't think is fair that Pro-whatever groups should go and tell the victim what to do. The decision is to be made by the victim. And I think we should respect her decision whatever the result might be.
Let's go back to my earlier point of using protection during sex. As we know we use protection because with defetnely don't want to catch some STD. We have the common sense that tells us that is better to be safe than sorry. Same should apply if you aren't ready to be a mommy or a daddy. Guys, if you feel you going to get the girl pregnant, and not be ready to be father......then use protection. What? Condoms break? Then dude, don't be cheap! Buy the thick ones! They cost more money but they sure are far more cheaper than supporting a child. Use the condoms PERIOD! Use protection and have safe sex. Is that simple.