Originally posted by Alpha CentauriStop talking about outside of the womb, nobody is discussing that. You're resorting to straying off topic and away from the point to gain a point. Nobody is discussing post-utero, just in utero.
-AC
If it is capable of survivng outside the womb then obviously it is more than just a plan, and why your analogy is flawed. As I said legally you are right and I have never disputed this. It is your analogy I have a problem with as it is extremely poor.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I don't give a flying f*ck about what you think, you are wrong. A fetus is a baby not yet born.
Temper, temper. I'm not wrong.
Either way, my whole point was to highlight the stupidity behind "It's killing a baby" which was claimed by Cyber Ninja, when he previously said "Fetus will become babies." If it will become one, it can't already be one, so abortion can't be killing a baby.
-AC
Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
Reported!!
What for?
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
If it is capable of survivng outside the womb then obviously it is more than just a plan, and why your analogy is flawed. As I said legally you are right and I have never disputed this. It is your analogy I have a problem with as it is extremely poor.
Is it able to survive on it's own?
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
If it is capable of survivng outside the womb then obviously it is more than just a plan, and why your analogy is flawed. As I said legally you are right and I have never disputed this. It is your analogy I have a problem with as it is extremely poor.
You are again going off in somewhere pointless. Who's talking about post-utero? You? Anyone else? No.
The point and fact is: In utero it's not murder, it's not killing a baby. Whatever happens in the womb, not outside of.
If you want to discuss child birth and outside of womb activities, find someone who wishes to do so. That's not why I'm here.
-AC
Originally posted by Bardock42Is it able to survive on it's own?
Sometimeas and sometimes it requires technology. You make a fair point but regardless some are able to survive without technology and always have. Even the use of tech shows they do not need the mother anymore. Truthfully no baby survives alone.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Temper, temper. I'm not wrong.Either way, my whole point was to highlight the stupidity behind "It's killing a baby" which was claimed by Cyber Ninja, when he previously said "Fetus will become babies." If it will become one, it can't already be one, so abortion can't be killing a baby.
-AC
I mostly agree with you. I think it should be left to the mother to decide, but I don't like the mentality of abortion is good for you. I think we should face the fact, that in some cases murder is ok.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I mostly agree with you. I think it should be left to the mother to decide, but I don't like the mentality of abortion is good for you. I think we should face the fact, that in some cases murder is ok.
I don't care what you think or what you like, Shaky. If you wanna swear at me, do it in PM.
-AC
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Your analogy is flawed that's the point.
My analogy was to prove the hypocricy in Cyber Ninja's comment, if you remember I DID ask him. I didn't say it was a fault-free analogy, but it served it's purpose. He claimed it was killing a baby then said that foetuses will become babies, which we can all agree is stupid.
I succeeded in my goal. Now if anyone else wishes to discuss abortion we can do so.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I don't care what you think or what you like, Shaky. If you wanna swear at me, do it in PM.-AC
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Many things that don't get reported are flaming Gav.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
My analogy was to prove the hypocricy in Cyber Ninja's comment, if you remember I DID ask him. I didn't say it was a fault-free analogy, but it served it's purpose. He claimed it was killing a baby then said that foetuses will become babies, which we can all agree is stupid.I succeeded in my goal. Now if anyone else wishes to discuss abortion we can do so.
-AC
The Analogy is no longer relevent!!!! It was on topic when used in context! It isnt in contect here!
Anyway back on topic. I agree with abortion. The rights of the parent are paramount.
Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
However his analogy had something to do with the discussion. You however don't seem to have that ability.Anyway back on topic. I agree with abortion. The rights of the parent are paramount.
This could also be seen as a flame as it disregards opinion because you don't understand it and attempts to be personal. 🙂
You agree with the rights of the parent as do I mostly, but abortion is not allowed beyond a certain varying point in most countries because at that point Doctors have devided that you are aborting a life.