Originally posted by Grand Moff Gav
Well regardless, if we were speaking I could understand, and unless you type at the speed of speech then you knew that that was flaming...
If you knew me, you would know that I am really not like that. But I have Russian blood in me and sometimes... well, I go to the world of anger, and in the world of anger, that made total sense. I would have edit it, but it's just water under the bridge now. 😄
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
This could also be seen as a flame as it disregards opinion because you don't understand it and attempts to be personal. 🙂You agree with the rights of the parent as do I mostly, but abortion is not allowed beyond a certain varying point in most countries because at that point Doctors have devided that you are aborting a life.
Yes, at a certain period in development the poetus starts to "think". The ablity to think is what makes us human!
Anyone really shouldnt wait until the zygote becomes a fetus if they are going to get an abortion. It takes 8 weeks for it to become a fetus, doctors advise not to wait that long, it makes the surgery more damaging to the mother as well. So all this crap about killing fetuses is off point anyway.
If you are pro-abortion or not doesnt make a difference, the real argument shouldn't be if it is right, the argument should be is it right to take away people's choices? and even if it is outlawed, women will still get abortions, just in back alleys where its not as clean and much more of a health hazard
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Sometimeas and sometimes it requires technology. You make a fair point but regardless some are able to survive without technology and always have. Even the use of tech shows they do not need the mother anymore. Truthfully no baby survives alone.
At what point did they survive on their own? You can't tell me that a 12 weeks old fetus can survive on its own (despite the fact that not even a real baby can survive on it'S own)
Originally posted by Bardock42
At onje point did they survive on their own?
Yes C births have happened for hundreds of years prematurely.
Originally posted by Bardock42
You can't tell me that a 12 weeks old fetus can survive on its own (despite the fact that not even a real baby can survive on it'S own)
Never said that did I 🙂
Originally posted by Bardock42
Sorry, I made a stupid "typo"..."At what point did they survive?"
I don't know - I would have to investigate this.
Don't worry about the typ, I do it all the time mate.
Anyway the truth is beyond the analogy AC is right legally, however morally is another issue and I think that varies from situuation to situation. Many abortions are needed, many are not.
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
I don't know - I would have to investigate this.Don't worry about the typ, I do it all the time mate.
Anyway the truth is beyond the analogy AC is right legally, however morally is another issue and I think that varies from situuation to situation. Many abortions are needed, many are not.
Would certainly be interesting.
Well "morally" is always subjective....certainly it might be morally wrong for many peopel...but that doesn't mean that the people shouldn't be allowed to abort if they wish.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It's whether or not they are wanted, though.If they are, regardless of need, they should be allowed.
-AC
Agreed and a good point, however, this need varies from Country to Country, No one can agree with the selective abortion that goes on in some parts of india, however it is culture driven sadly. I got do some work now so cya.
I have no problem with abortion being legal; I just don't like the unintended consequences. Things like, abortion being used as a contraceptive, people becoming rich from performing abortions, and this rationalization that it’s “good for you”. Many of these unintended consequences have unintended consequences, like the devaluing of life.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I have no problem with abortion being legal; I just don't like the unintended consequences. Things like, abortion being used as a contraceptive, people becoming rich from performing abortions, and this rationalization that it’s “good for you”. Many of these unintended consequences have unintended consequences, like the devaluing of life.
Life doesn't matter that much anyways.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I have no problem with abortion being legal; I just don't like the unintended consequences. Things like, abortion being used as a contraceptive, people becoming rich from performing abortions, and this rationalization that it’s “good for you”. Many of these unintended consequences have unintended consequences, like the devaluing of life.
I don't like the idea of it being used as birth control either, but like you said I have no problem with it being legal.
-AC