Abortion

Originally posted by Makedde
Okay, so if we don't teach our girls about sex when in school, they'll go out and get pregnant. If we DO teach them, they still get pregnant. What is wrong with them? Are they stupid? Why does it go in one ear and straight out the other? This is why I think abortion needs to be restricted. It needs to be harder to get one. Maybe then they'll think twice about acting irresponsibly. As I have said in an earleir post, if women can't be responsible for their bodie, what makes them think they can be responsible for their kids, when they decide to have them? It's no good telling your 16 year old daughter that it's okay to sleep around with whoever, and have abortions whenever you like. That's just immature, which a lot of women are.

You outdid yourself here. First off, making it harder to get one will drastically increase the level of dangerous abortions.

Second, you're talking about being nasty, mean and torturous to these women in the hopes that they'll learn a lesson. You call pro-choicers evil? You seriously need a reality check. The rest of that post was generalistic babble.

Originally posted by Makedde
Multiple abortions will weaken their uterus, so when these women finally decide they want to keep a baby, they end up having miscarriage after miscarriage. Why? Because their womb is so used to holding a baby for a short period of time, it expells that child when the women is about 3-4 months pregnant. Then they whinge about how they can't get pregnant, go on IVF, and have the Government and taxpayer fork out money to help them become parents.

Will a woman having multiple abortions, f*cking up her uterus and not having a baby affect your life? No it won't. 'Nuff said there.

This is one isolated avenue, it doesn't happen all the time, what the hell are you talking about now?

Originally posted by Makedde
They need to be told that if they and have abortion after abortion, they may never be parents.

Ok, so you tell them this and they say "So?".

What do you do then? Threaten them more? I think you've already cancelled out your credibility enough to say that.

-AC

Originally posted by Makedde
Okay, so if we don't teach our girls about sex when in school, they'll go out and get pregnant. If we DO teach them, they still get pregnant. What is wrong with them? Are they stupid? Why does it go in one ear and straight out the other? This is why I think abortion needs to be restricted. It needs to be harder to get one. Maybe then they'll think twice about acting irresponsibly. As I have said in an earleir post, if women can't be responsible for their bodie, what makes them think they can be responsible for their kids, when they decide to have them? It's no good telling your 16 year old daughter that it's okay to sleep around with whoever, and have abortions whenever you like. That's just immature, which a lot of women are.

Originally posted by Makedde
Multiple abortions will weaken their uterus, so when these women finally decide they want to keep a baby, they end up having miscarriage after miscarriage. Why? Because their womb is so used to holding a baby for a short period of time, it expells that child when the women is about 3-4 months pregnant. Then they whinge about how they can't get pregnant, go on IVF, and have the Government and taxpayer fork out money to help them become parents.

They need to be told that if they and have abortion after abortion, they may never be parents.

Which is, as people have said multiple times, a problem with people. Not abortion.

-AC

The aforementioned is a fact as well.

Right, so we just let them act like whores and spread diseases, and kill their babies, and then whinge to anyone who'll listen about how they can't have kids because they had 5-6 abortions when they were younger. Right.

Lets make prostition legal then. Women seem to like sleeping around, lets let them be paid for it. 🙄

Originally posted by Makedde
Right, so we just let them act like whores and spread diseases, and kill their babies, and then whinge to anyone who'll listen about how they can't have kids because they had 5-6 abortions when they were younger. Right.

Lets make prostition legal then. Women seem to like sleeping around, lets let them be paid for it. 🙄

Yes, that's exactly right. Nobody is saying you have to like it, but it doesn't affect your life does it? The answer here is no, it does not. I'll answer that for you seeing as you dodged it last time.

-AC

Originally posted by Makedde
Right, so we just let them act like whores and spread diseases, and kill their babies, and then whinge to anyone who'll listen about how they can't have kids because they had 5-6 abortions when they were younger. Right.

Lets make prostition legal then. Women seem to like sleeping around, lets let them be paid for it. 🙄

Prostitution SHOULD be legalized. It doesn't infringe on anyone's rights either.

This isn't about prostitution, there's a thread for that.

-AC

So many people here wanna knock abortion but the act itself is what it is..................its the behavior associated that should be addressed in my opinion.

What behaviour? Seriously this is the most puzzling claim.

Do you mean using it as birth control? If so, I agree that it's irresponsible and I disagree with those doing it...but I'm not going to try and stop them, and neither should anyone. If birth control isn't what you meant, then perhaps explain it a bit better.

-AC

Originally posted by soleran30
So many people here wanna knock abortion but the act itself is what it is..................its the behavior associated that should be addressed in my opinion.

Yep. 😉

Originally posted by soleran30
So many people here wanna knock abortion but the act itself is what it is..................its the behavior associated that should be addressed in my opinion.

Originally posted by Makedde
Yep. 😉

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
What behaviour? Seriously this is the most puzzling claim.

Do you mean using it as birth control? If so, I agree that it's irresponsible and I disagree with those doing it...but I'm not going to try and stop them, and neither should anyone. If birth control isn't what you meant, then perhaps explain it a bit better.

-AC

Sleeping around, he may mean. 😉 It's not healthy to sleep around, you can get diseases, pass them on to other people, then they infect others with them. It may not be my business what these women do, it may not be my business that they sleep around, but I have a right to be concern for their welfare. They are putting their lives at risk everytime they have unprotected sex with an unknown man. They should be smart enough to know that. I don't want to see anyone get an STD, or AIDS or something like that.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
What behaviour? Seriously this is the most puzzling claim.

Do you mean using it as birth control? If so, I agree that it's irresponsible and I disagree with those doing it...but I'm not going to try and stop them, and neither should anyone. If birth control isn't what you meant, then perhaps explain it a bit better.

-AC

The behavior AC you know like give a dog a bone and he does tricks.............same thing with abortion. A womans right to choose is cool but like I have said many many times if she chooses to be irresponsible then you need to suck it up and deal with it. If a woman has out of control circumstances then so be it and do what is necessary.

People need to have choices but to facilitate irresponsible ones just fubars our society.

Originally posted by Makedde
Sleeping around, he may mean. 😉 It's not healthy to sleep around, you can get diseases, pass them on to other people, then they infect others with them. It may not be my business what these women do, it may not be my business that they sleep around, but I have a right to be concern for their welfare. They are putting their lives at risk everytime they have unprotected sex with an unknown man. They should be smart enough to know that. I don't want to see anyone get an STD, or AIDS or something like that.

Then be concerned with their welfare in your mind and in your armchair, don't take it upon yourself for the changing of laws to get your way, that's pathetic and selfish. It's not your right to act upon that concern. Also, did you ever think that they might not want your concern?

Again, you end with "I don't want..." SO?! So what? Who gives a crap what you want for random humans, besides you? Stop being so patronising and selfish.

This is irrelevant, abortion (along with all what you just said) has zero to do with you. Concerned? Fine, keep that concern to yourself.

-AC

Originally posted by soleran30
The behavior AC you know like give a dog a bone and he does tricks.............same thing with abortion. A womans right to choose is cool but like I have said many many times if she chooses to be irresponsible then you need to suck it up and deal with it. If a woman has out of control circumstances then so be it and do what is necessary.

People need to have choices but to facilitate irresponsible ones just fubars our society.

No it doesn't, because we're not facilitating irresponsible ones solely. It's catering for women, as a whole. The female gender is filled with responsible and irresponsible females, both have a right to do what they want. You think birth control is irresponsible? I agree, that doesn't mean she has to be forced to deal with it. You think she should? Fine. Don't go trying to change laws to make her do so though, that's not your right. Irresponsible use of abortion or not, that's a choice she has the right to make.

I find it utterly depressing that so many people feel they have the right to eradicate an avenue of choice purely because it's not to their liking.

-AC

Originally posted by soleran30
The behavior AC you know like give a dog a bone and he does tricks.............same thing with abortion. A womans right to choose is cool but like I have said many many times if she chooses to be irresponsible then you need to suck it up and deal with it. If a woman has out of control circumstances then so be it and do what is necessary.

People need to have choices but to facilitate irresponsible ones just fubars our society.

People are so irresponsible nowadays. A man can break into your house, climb through the window and trip over the coffee table,and sie the house owner. People can't defend themselves against attack anymore, it violates a persons civil rights.

Get drunk at a bar, walk outside and get hit by car, sue the barman, he shouldn't have served you alcohol.

Got a gambling problem? Sue the casino, they should have known you had a problem and stopped you.

Raped a child? Never mind, you had a hard childhood, so your behaivor should be excused.

Dying of lung cancer? Sue the tabbacoo companies, you didn't know smoking was addictive.

Pregnant and didn't use any contraception? Who do you sue? The makers of condoms?

Everything we do carries a concequence. People refuse point blank to take responsiblity for their own stupidity.

Society, while telling us not to be so stupid, and be responsible, also encourages us not to be responsible, by allowing women to abort the result of their selfishness, by allowing people to sue for their own stupidity.

Pretty soon, we will be a nation of idiots.

yeah exactly and I am not for making abortions illegal as a whole but I am for people taking responsibility for their actions.

Hey I mean you live in a country where healthcare is "paid" by the govt here it isn't and if someone needs it then I say yeah if they are being irresposible then I say ok yeah but make them pay.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
No it doesn't, because we're not facilitating irresponsible ones solely. It's catering for women, as a whole. The female gender is filled with responsible and irresponsible females, both have a right to do what they want. You think birth control is irresponsible? I agree, that doesn't mean she has to be forced to deal with it. You think she should? Fine. Don't go trying to change laws to make her do so though, that's not your right. Irresponsible use of abortion or not, that's a choice she has the right to make.

I find it utterly depressing that so many people feel they have the right to eradicate an avenue of choice purely because it's not to their liking.

-AC

I think people should have the right to tell people to take responsiblity.

Originally posted by Makedde
People are so irresponsible nowadays. A man can break into your house, climb through the window and trip over the coffee table,and sie the house owner. People can't defend themselves against attack anymore, it violates a persons civil rights.

Get drunk at a bar, walk outside and get hit by car, sue the barman, he shouldn't have served you alcohol.

Got a gambling problem? Sue the casino, they should have known you had a problem and stopped you.

Raped a child? Never mind, you had a hard childhood, so your behaivor should be excused.

Dying of lung cancer? Sue the tabbacoo companies, you didn't know smoking was addictive.

Pregnant and didn't use any contraception? Who do you sue? The makers of condoms?

Everything we do carries a concequence. People refuse point blank to take responsiblity for their own stupidity.

Society, while telling us not to be so stupid, and be responsible, also encourages us not to be responsible, by allowing women to abort the result of their selfishness, by allowing people to sue for their own stupidity.

Pretty soon, we will be a nation of idiots.

A+B doesn't always equal C.