Abortion

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
What Sithsaber gets confused is the fact that people like me are encouraging whatever the female wants, and can't accept that one of those choices is abortion, possibly.

He fails to acknowledge that if the woman decided to keep it, pro-choicers would support that also.

-AC

I see now that he just has no idea what he is talking about.

I probably should have figured that out back when he posted 3 pages of information and still never gave a single reason to ban abortion.

Originally posted by StyleTime

There is no scientific consensus as to when life begins.

And I doubt whether there ever will be as everyone will justify their point of view and opinion.

However an overwhelming majority of doctors/scientists have come to a consensus as to when "life" begins.

An overwhelming majority of music critics have come to a consensus that Arctic Monkeys are a good band.

As long as it's open for debate and not a fact, majority means nothing really.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
An overwhelming majority of music critics have come to a consensus that Arctic Monkeys are a good band.

As long as it's open for debate and not a fact, majority means nothing really.

-AC

yup which is why I prefaced my statement the way I did. Someone somewhere is going to believe the world is flat also however that doesn't make it so.

At least in USA majority does mean something................ask the 25 people in South Dakota how they voted.............

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
What Sithsaber gets confused is the fact that people like me are encouraging whatever the female wants, and can't accept that one of those choices is abortion, possibly.

He fails to acknowledge that if the woman decided to keep it, pro-choicers would support that also.

-AC

Uh, no b*tch.

There is no confusion.

It's very plain that you believe the female should do whatever she wants, including abortion.....

and of course if she decided to keep it the pro-choicer's would support that. DUH.

WTF are you talking about?

Do you somehow think that I don't know those things?

I believe them to be wrong (just as much my rite, as is yours to believe them ok) but I don't doubt that those are the viewpoints of either yourself or the pro-choice movement.

Your better at insults than that, why did you choose to be so redundant there?

Originally posted by soleran30
yup which is why I prefaced my statement the way I did. Someone somewhere is going to believe the world is flat also however that doesn't make it so.

At least in USA majority does mean something................ask the 25 people in South Dakota how they voted.............

25 plus the four heads on Mount Rushmore.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Uh, no *****.

There is no confusion.

It's very plain that you believe the female should do whatever she wants, including abortion.....

...including adoption, including keeping the baby. You left out those two options.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Do you somehow think that I don't know those things?

Playing with the cards you deal, brother.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
I believe them to be wrong (just as much my rite, as is yours to believe them ok) but I don't doubt that those are the viewpoints of either yourself or the pro-choice movement.

You believe what's wrong? Pro-choice is for whatever the female wants.

The three main options are abortion, adoption and keeping the baby. Two of those options adhere to your beliefs. The only one that doesn't is abortion.

So rather than focusing on the fact that pro-choicers aren't necessarily against you, you focus on ridiculing them (or attempting to) because they support the one other option that YOU severely dislike, should that be the woman's preference.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Your better at insults than that, why did you choose to be so redundant there?

I wasn't being redundant, I was pointing out (as everyone has) the outrageous flaw in your logic...all the time.

-AC

Originally posted by StyleTime
Ok. I just thought I missed someone come in and say "women should get abortions instead of using contraceptives."

I see now that he just has no idea what he is talking about.

I probably should have figured that out back when he posted 3 pages of information and still never gave a single reason to ban abortion.

I know exactly what I'm talking about.

I disagree with those choices, as I personally believe them to be wrong.

The fact is, you kill a baby.

Call it a fetus to ease your conscience if you like, but it will grow into a baby, a human life.

I don't believe that you should kill the baby in any circumstance other than to save the life of the mother, and you know that.

Trying to degrade me as a person will not change this view, nor the millions of other people who hold it, and who are taking leagal action to end this B.S.

The 3 pages of info. was just the scientific facts about the negative aspects of abortion, not really to support a ban, just to inform on the detrimental effects of the procedure.

But like anything else, you will take away from it what you wish.

Want a reason for a ban?

It's the only time we allow the taking of an INNOCENT human life, against it's own will.

(if that doesn't bother you, lets rewind the clock and have Styletime's mother opt for that choice. You wouldn't even be here to spout this malarkey.)

How about give me a reason not to ban it. (other than life of the mother, which will never get banned anyway.)

And no horseshit "choice is more valuable than life"..... the jury is still out on that one. (see Ireland, South Dakota, many more to come)

Originally posted by sithsaber408
I know exactly what I'm talking about.

Hahahaha. Not a good start when you follow it with:

Originally posted by sithsaber408
The fact is, you kill a baby.

Call it a fetus to ease your conscience if you like, but it will grow into a baby, a human life.

How can it be a baby if it will also grow into one?

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
...including adoption, including keeping the baby. You left out those two options.

Playing with the cards you deal, brother.

You believe what's wrong? Pro-choice is for whatever the female wants.

The three main options are abortion, adoption and keeping the baby. Two of those options adhere to your beliefs. The only one that doesn't is abortion.

So rather than focusing on the fact that pro-choicers aren't necessarily against you, you focus on ridiculing them (or attempting to) because they support the one other option that YOU severely dislike, should that be the woman's preference.

I wasn't being redundant, I was pointing out (as everyone has) the outrageous flaw in your logic...all the time.

-AC

what f*cking flaw?

What the f*ck are you talking about?

That some people think a woman should choose the 3rd option if she wants?

I know that.

I believe to be an unjust killing of an innocent life.

The fact that some people are okay with that is a flaw in my logic,... how?

They can be okay with whatever they want, doesn't make my point of view "flawed".

The entire country of Germany was "okay with" global domination and genocide,......

would an opponnent of that worldview be "flawed" just because the other side disagrees?

What the hell are you smoking?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Hahahaha. Not a good start when you follow it with:

How can it be a baby if it will also grow into one?

-AC

You know what I meant.

Support your point by dodging and finger pointing at grammatical structure,....

I like it.

Really.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
what f*cking flaw?

What the f*ck are you talking about?

That some people think a woman should choose the 3rd option if she wants?

I know that.

I believe to be an unjust killing of an innocent life.

The fact that some people are okay with that is a flaw in my logic,... how?

They can be okay with whatever they want, doesn't make my point of view "flawed".

The entire country of Germany was "okay with" global domination and genocide,......

would an opponnent of that worldview be "flawed" just because the other side disagrees?

What the hell are you smoking?

"The three main options are abortion, adoption and keeping the baby. Two of those options adhere to your beliefs. The only one that doesn't is abortion.

So rather than focusing on the fact that pro-choicers aren't necessarily against you, you focus on ridiculing them (or attempting to) because they support the one other option that YOU severely dislike, should that be the woman's preference."

-AC

Originally posted by sithsaber408

And no horseshit "choice is more valuable than life"..... the jury is still out on that one. (see Ireland, South Dakota, many more to come)

I'm sure AZ will eventually ouwlaw abortion. CA will never, because its a state with 30 million lefties.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
You know what I meant.

Support your point by dodging and finger pointing at grammatical structure,....

I like it.

Really.

I know what you meant? I know what you typed.

You said it is a baby, then you said it will become a baby. It can't be both and you can't believe both. It wasn't a grammatical error, the grammar was fine. It was just a stupid mistake by someone who, despite their contrary claims, has no clue what they're on about.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I know what you meant? I know what you typed.

You said it is a baby, then you said it will become a baby. It can't be both and you can't believe both. It wasn't a grammatical error, the grammar was fine. It was just a stupid mistake by someone who, despite their contrary claims, has no clue what they're on about.

-AC

We all knew what he meant, homes. He doesnt feel like argueing grammar or splitting hairs with you.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
I'm sure AZ will eventually ouwlaw abortion. CA will never, because its a state with 30 million lefties.

LOL CA the largest Liberal country in the World so says President Schwarzeneger!

I doubt California will ever make abortions illegal as long as conservatives get to keep the death penalty🙂

So you reiterate that I should let women choose if they want to keep a baby or not, because it is their rite. (and that I'm too harsh)

Thats your postition, and it always has been.

Fine.

I don't agree, I think that they shouldn't kill a baby that had no choice in being concieved and now will have no choice but to die.

Thats always been my point of view, and is part of my logic on why it is wrong.

You didn't answer the question so I must assume that you retract your statement on how my logic is flawed.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
So you reiterate that I should let women choose if they want to keep a baby or not, because it is their rite. (and that I'm too harsh)

Thats your postition, and it always has been.

Fine.

I don't agree, I think that they shouldn't kill a baby that had no choice in being concieved and now will have no choice but to die.

Thats always been my point of view, and is part of my logic on why it is wrong.

You didn't answer the question so I must assume that you retract your statement on how my logic is flawed.

I posted the entire section where I explain why your logic is flawed. You chose not to read it, so I'll do so again for you:

"The three main options are abortion, adoption and keeping the baby. Two of those options adhere to your beliefs. The only one that doesn't is abortion.

So rather than focusing on the fact that pro-choicers aren't necessarily against you, you focus on ridiculing them (or attempting to) because they support the one other option that YOU severely dislike, should that be the woman's preference."

Read it. That's why you arguing against pro-choicers so vehemently is illogical.

Originally posted by Quiero Mota
We all knew what he meant, homes. He doesnt feel like argueing grammar or splitting hairs with you.

It's not grammar or splitting hairs.

He made one clear comment about it being the killing of a baby, that's fine. Then he made another saying that it will become one, and completely contradicted himself.

Simple. Don't preach responsibility if you wont take it for yourself.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I posted the entire section where I explain why your logic is flawed. You chose not to read it, so I'll do so again for you:

"The three main options are abortion, adoption and keeping the baby. Two of those options adhere to your beliefs. The only one that doesn't is abortion.

So rather than focusing on the fact that pro-choicers aren't necessarily against you, you focus on ridiculing them (or attempting to) because they support the one other option that YOU severely dislike, should that be the woman's preference."

Read it. That's why you arguing against pro-choicers so vehemently is illogical.

-AC

What the f*ck??? 😆

I disagree with killing innocent life, some people don't, so......

my logic is flawed????!!????

Arguing with a pro-choicer is logical if I believe that the choice they advocate is WRONG.

Your a 'tard.

Originally posted by soleran30
yup which is why I prefaced my statement the way I did. Someone somewhere is going to believe the world is flat also however that doesn't make it so.

Originally posted by soleran30

At least in USA majority does mean something................ask the 25 people in South Dakota how they voted.............

Originally posted by sithsaber408
The fact is, you kill a baby.

Call it a fetus to ease your conscience if you like, but it will grow into a baby, a human life.

Seriously, I do not care if you call it a human. I am not trying to ease my conscience. I am sick of repeating this. It does not matter whether the thing is alive or not. She still has the right to abort it WHENEVER she feels like it just like she can get a hair cut or breast reduction.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
I don't believe that you should kill the baby in any circumstance other than to save the life of the mother, and you know that.

Trying to degrade me as a person will not change this view, nor the millions of other people who hold it, and who are taking leagal action to end this B.S.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Want a reason for a ban?

It's the only time we allow the taking of an INNOCENT human life, against it's own will.

Originally posted by sithsaber408
(if that doesn't bother you, lets rewind the clock and have Styletime's mother opt for that choice. You wouldn't even be here to spout this malarkey.)

Originally posted by sithsaber408

How about give me a reason not to ban it. (other than life of the mother, which will never get banned anyway.)