Abortion

this topic aggitates me, ppl against abortion say its killing/murder w/e. but do they think of the feelings of the raped 14 year old who now has to live with this child?? and what if their daughter or wife was raped and became pregnant. they would take care of the baby even though the feeling of love could not possibly be truthful because it is not both of their child.

do they think of what its like to be raped? how that feels? and then be forced to live with and take care of a part of person who raped them....... i dont think they truly do.

nah, they're the ones who either think women are objects or are doing the raping in the first place, or both

I don't think it's fair to judge abortion as either good or evil. People do what they do for their own good reasons. Other people should respect the choices others make and rather first look at themselves critically, allthough without self-judgement, before they judge others.

Originally posted by Wonderer_temp
I don't think it's fair to judge abortion as either good or evil. People do what they do for their own good reasons. Other people should respect the choices others make and rather first look at themselves critically, allthough without self-judgement, before they judge others.

This stand-point has been put forward countless times, Wonderer. I share it for one.
The problem is, that fundamental religious people often have very low self-esteem. So they need to force their views on others, to make sure they are “right”.
If people are against abortion – they should simply abstain from having them, but from what I heard from a friend who lived a couple of years in Arkansas, the holier-than-thou will visit abortion-clinics faster than you can say “Aren’t you against it?”, if THEIR daughter gets pregnant (due to horribly lacking sex-ed among things).
So the hypocrisy is appalling. And the obsession these people have with other people’s sex-lives and choices is simply is bordering on being scary…

Originally posted by The Omega
This stand-point has been put forward countless times, Wonderer. I share it for one.
The problem is, that fundamental religious people often have very low self-esteem. So they need to force their views on others, to make sure they are “right”.
If people are against abortion – they should simply abstain from having them, but from what I heard from a friend who lived a couple of years in Arkansas, the holier-than-thou will visit abortion-clinics faster than you can say “Aren’t you against it?”, if THEIR daughter gets pregnant (due to horribly lacking sex-ed among things).
So the hypocrisy is appalling. And the obsession these people have with other people’s sex-lives and choices is simply is bordering on being scary…

That's why I'm as sinful as possible in front of Christians. Hell, even when Im not in front of them.

It's illegal completely in SD, and I'm waiting for it spread to the rest of the states.

Originally posted by DiamondBullets
It's illegal completely in SD, and I'm waiting for it spread to the rest of the states.

It won't. Maybe another two or three redneck states but thats about it.

Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
It won't.

Why do u think that?

Because not all of the states support pro-life views. duh. THought that was obvious. If you think places like New York are going to ban abortion, you are woefully ignorant.

I don't think abortion should be used as a form a birth control.

Originally posted by badabing
I don't think abortion should be used as a form a birth control.

and im sry if my previous post "bashed" any christians or offended pro-life ppl, it wasnt meant to. i was just voicing what i feel they should do b4 saying what other ppl should do with their bodies.

Originally posted by The Omega
This stand-point has been put forward countless times, Wonderer. I share it for one.
The problem is, that fundamental religious people often have very low self-esteem. So they need to force their views on others, to make sure they are “right”.
If people are against abortion – they should simply abstain from having them, but from what I heard from a friend who lived a couple of years in Arkansas, the holier-than-thou will visit abortion-clinics faster than you can say “Aren’t you against it?”, if THEIR daughter gets pregnant (due to horribly lacking sex-ed among things).
So the hypocrisy is appalling. And the obsession these people have with other people’s sex-lives and choices is simply is bordering on being scary…

Thanks. Well then let me extend my idea of non-judgement even further: We shouldn't judge those who are hypocrits either. But I know what you mean, it is disturbing.

holy crap.

alright as said by Bardock42 & botankus i am now about to trry to read this whole thread.
seeing as how it is 3245 pages long i know i will be here a really long ****ing time, looks like im pulling an all nighter.
i'll come back with what i have gatherd from all the pages in a few hours. maybe even days depends on how long it takes to read it all.

someone make me coffee.

Originally posted by dave_kodak
holy crap.

alright as said by Bardock42 & botankus i am now about to trry to read this whole thread.
seeing as how it is 3245 pages long i know i will be here a really long ****ing time, looks like im pulling an all nighter.
i'll come back with what i have gatherd from all the pages in a few hours. maybe even days depends on how long it takes to read it all.

someone make me coffee.

Have fun with that...there might be a few good posts in it.....seeing as I have posted once or twice.

im reading really fast as it is.
ok so im at this point now where im ready to bust my skull onto my desk many a time till i bleed out and die.
in other words im on page 17. god damn thos long posts.

lol and btw a friend of mine said that the people who said i should read this are sadistic creatures. she means u Bardock42, and lets not forget botankus.

i will be doing updates as i go along, but i will be doing them in note pad then copying them to one post when i get to page 100.

On a side-note, I'm wondering:

After reading through (part of) this thread, has anyone changed their opinions on abortion? At all?

i havent and i took a break once i go tot page 37 now im bakc to the reading. muhahahaha

oh son of a *****, um im guna have to get back to reading this some other time i got some news and well **** im anger.

Originally posted by BabyGirl_23
all im trying to say is that girls shouldnt have sex if they dont want to be pregnant and we wouldnt have this problem and we wouldnt have to have abortions.

People are always going to have sex. You cannot prevent a woman/girl from having sex if that is what she wants. Accidents happen.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You are insisting that you can be pro-life despite being pro-some abortions. You can't. You factually cannot.

The law tells us many things are fact, but people have the freedom to decide what they believe.

The law tells us that abortion is not murder, because it is legal. Is there such a thing as legalised murder?

Not enough is known about the unborn, so no one, not even the law, can say whether or not abortion is, or is not, murder.

I have many pro choice friends, and while they respect a womans right to chose, some of them believe that once the fetus is viable, abortion should be restricted. Likewise, many pro life friends I have would condone an abortion if the womans life were in danger. This doesn't mean they would change their minds about abortion being murder, which is what they believe. They are simply saying that the womans life is more important than the life of an unborn.

I am pro choice, although I hate abortion, and believe it to be murder, despite what the law tells me. Late term abortion I find abhorrent. I believe late term abortion should only be performed if necessary. If the fetus is viable, he/she should be given a chance at life, if that is at all possible. I may not like the reasons why women have abortions, but it is not my place to interfere in their personal lives.

If someone who claims to be pro life supports abortion only if the womans life is in danger, which would probably account for less than one percent of all abortions, am I correct in saying that your opinion is that this person is not, in fact, pro life? Even if the person in question is against 99% of abortions?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Are there people who don't like abortion but accept it in some cases? Yes. These are not pro-lifers. Pro-lifers are against abortions no matter what, and the dictionary defines it as such.

The dictionary tells us a lot of things. We are not obliged to believe everything the dictionary tells us.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
My job here is done. If you're not 100% against abortion, you're not of pro-life orientation.

Well, you know I disagree with you on that one. I see your point, though, but the law isn't fact. I feel that many pro lifers, who would support an abortion if the womans life were in danger, would be highly offended by the suggestion that they must be against ALL abortion, no exceptions. I think there is sometimes room for exception.

By the way, regarding the poll in this thread. 'Do You Believe In Abortion'? I object to the title. Shouldn't the title be 'Do You Support A Womans Right To Chose'? 🙂