Originally posted by Lord Urizen
DAMN you just dont get it.I AM AGAINST IT....but that doesn't MEAN i would force a woman to give childbirth
Despite my opinion, it is NOT my right.
If you do not believe that the immorality of abortion is sufficient to restrict a woman from having one, then who cares what you think about the immorality of abortion?
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
It's just an opinion.RELAX bro..relax
If your opinion of the morality of abortion does not affect whether you believe a woman has a right to choose to have one, then your opinion of the morality of abortion is irrelevant, so why share it? That is the equivalent of arguing that a sirloin is the best cut of steak, and then stating that you do not believe cows should be killed for human consumption; irrelevant, pointless, and stupid.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Reply, because I asked you this ages ago and you dodged it.If you don't think abortion is bad enough to make moves to be against it, why on Earth are you here discussing the morality/immorality of abortion?
-AC
Okay.
I DO think abortion is very bad, bad enough for someone to speak out against it.
Bad enough to allow the right to protest against it.
Bad enough that a woman should be informed of ALL her options, those other than abortion.....
But i am against the USE of FORCE.
I am torn up between Life VS Choice, so ultamately, even I have a conflicted opinion about this within myself.
It is NOT MY RIGHT to force a woman to make this choice. It does NOT matter WHAT my opinion is, OR yours in regards to what her final decision is.
Does this mean i am not against strongly against abortion? No....my opinion is the same. But my opinion is no way to govern someone else's life and their choices.
Why am i discussin the morality of this situation ?
Because i have every right to do so. Because i HAVE an opinion, and i felt like saying it. Just because you guys thought my opinion was stupid or whatever, was no reason to insult me.
Do you feel i answered your question enough? Adam Poe asked me the same one before.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Okay.I DO think abortion is very bad, bad enough for someone to speak out against it.
Bad enough to allow the right to protest against it.
Bad enough that a woman should be informed of ALL her options, those other than abortion.....
But i am against the USE of FORCE.
I am torn up between Life VS Choice, so ultamately, even I have a conflicted opinion about this within myself.
It is NOT MY RIGHT to force a woman to make this choice. It does NOT matter WHAT my opinion is, OR yours in regards to what her final decision is.
Does this mean i am not against strongly against abortion? No....my opinion is the same. But my opinion is no way to govern someone else's life and their choices.
Why am i discussin the morality of this situation ?
Because i have every right to do so. Because i HAVE an opinion, and i felt like saying it. Just because you guys thought my opinion was stupid or whatever, was no reason to insult me.
Do you feel i answered your question enough? Adam Poe asked me the same one before.
So essentially, all of us agree that it's the woman's choice and nobody should impose on that.
Which leads me to the same question: Why continually discuss, with yourself, the morality of it? It's irrelevant, why? Because you don't believe a woman should be forced.
So what you should have done is expressed your opinion clearly and then let it drop. There was no point in banging on about it just because you "felt like it". That was extremely selfish and needless.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
So essentially, all of us agree that it's the woman's choice and nobody should impose on that.Which leads me to the same question: Why continually discuss, with yourself, the morality of it? It's irrelevant, why? Because you don't believe a woman should be forced.
So what you should have done is expressed your opinion clearly and then let it drop. There was no point in banging on about it just because you "felt like it". That was extremely selfish and needless.
-AC
Originally posted by Adam_PoE
If your opinion of the morality of abortion does not affect whether you believe a woman has a right to choose to have one, then your opinion of the morality of abortion is irrelevant, so why share it? That is the equivalent of arguing that a sirloin is the best cut of steak, and then stating that you do not believe cows should be killed for human consumption; irrelevant, pointless, and stupid.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
So essentially, all of us agree that it's the woman's choice and nobody should impose on that.Which leads me to the same question: Why continually discuss, with yourself, the morality of it? It's irrelevant, why? Because you don't believe a woman should be forced.
So what you should have done is expressed your opinion clearly and then let it drop. There was no point in banging on about it just because you "felt like it". That was extremely selfish and needless.
-AC
Yes we agree on one thing. Ultamately it is the woman's choice.
But just because I wouldn't attack her choice does not mean i don't thkn she is making an immoral one by deciding to go through with the abortion.
"Felt like it"? No....you guys were attacking my point and i was defending it. Then insults were thrown, and yes, although i did engage in the insulting as well, you guys initiated it.
But whatever, that's done. I don't take them personally. I don't care for insults, but it weakens a debate. I didn't want to come back, because i felt it was pointless to engage in an insult fest.
Once you clarified that you were joking around and that you're intention was not to drive me out of the thread, i decided to come back in hoping you would debate more seriously, which is what you did, so im glad.
Selfish ? No..i thnk abortion is selfish, sorry.
Needless ? depends who you ask.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Yes we agree on one thing. Ultamately it is the woman's choice.But just because I wouldn't attack her choice does not mean i don't thkn she is making an immoral one by deciding to go through with the abortion.
Then why say any more than that? "Felt like it"? Exactly, selfish and pointless.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
"Felt like it"? No....you guys were attacking my point and i was defending it. Then insults were thrown, and yes, although i did engage in the insulting as well, you guys initiated it.
I think we were all curious as to why you chose to continually press the point of morality in abortion when you have chosen not to interfere. You obviously care about the issue, but not enough to take any action, because you believe that's not your right.
So why go any further?
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Once you clarified that you were joking around and that you're intention was not to drive me out of the thread, i decided to come back in hoping you would debate more seriously, which is what you did, so im glad.
I wasn't joking when I said you were acting stupid, I believed you were and currently believe you are doing so in other threads.
When I say that, I say it like I would call someone smart. If you act a certain way, I'll say it. I don't do it for no reason.
-AC
Punker...that's what you dont get.
I wouldn't take away someone's ability to choose, that's all.
Am i against it? Yes.....
Does that mean the woman should have NO OTHER OPTION?
Hells no.....every human being should be able to choose. MY OPINION IS JUST MY OPINION.......
just like YOU think that being gay is a sin and all that stuff, its your right to have that opinion, but it is NOT your right to STOP gay people from having a sex life or a life in marriage.