Originally posted by Robtard
Lol, again, all you can do is say 'idiot' make personal attacks while stomping your little feet because someone dares question your logic, childish. By the way, asking question's is a BIG part of debating.
It's honestly nothing personal, and I don't care if you question my logic. You're the one making illogical hyperbolic leaps, not me. It's just that you give me the impression that you're an idiot. It's nothing personal, really.
Yes, asking questions, but once you've read someone's opposing argument- especially one as blatant as Phoenix's- you should get it.
Originally posted by Robtard
Actually there's valid bedate over when a fetus becomes 'conscience', just because it benefits your point of view that a fetus is nothing more than cellular muck being kept alive doesn't make it so.
Yes there is. It benefits my point of view because there is much more evidence for mine than there is yours.
I rest my case. You want to assume that it's conscious (not conscience, get it right)? Do so on your own time.
-AC
Originally posted by Phoenix2001The problem with most pro-life supporters is that they think too much about the future. And that's not good... because they're living in nothing more than fantasy.
[QUOTE=6656519]Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
👆 I said something similar a couple pages back
Living in nothing more than fantasy...? WTF is that supposed to mean, just because it sounds deep and meaningful doesn't make it so. Who decided people are living is this so called fantasy? You two?
Let me guess, you'll get upset that I questioned what you said, here's a hint, say something that makes sense and you won't get asked to clarify. Seriously though, what does "living in nothing more than a fantasy." mean and PLEASE do not make a Matrix reference? How is that relevant to the topic of abortion.
Originally posted by §ilent
Actually there is proof. Link But it's out of date.
the link is broken.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
[B]It's honestly nothing personal, and I don't care if you question my logic. You're the one making illogical hyperbolic leaps, not me. It's just that you give me the impression that you're an idiot. It's nothing personal, really..
Again, all you can do is insult me while saying 'I'm not insulting you. Sad and childish.
Yes, asking questions, but once you've read someone's opposing argument- especially one as blatant as Phoenix's- you should get it..
Blantant but irrelevant.
Yes there is. It benefits my point of view because there is much more evidence for mine than there is yours..
"(Stomp stomp) Im right you're wrong because I say so!"
I rest my case. You want to assume that it's conscious (not conscience, get it right)?
Good catch, I see you resort to pointing out typos, wow, thats a valid from of debate.
Do so on your own time.
Does this mean the wedding is off? And, I hope you're aware, if you do not want to listen to opposing views, you shouldn't post your own views in a debate forum. Just a F.Y.I.
Originally posted by Robtard
Living in nothing more than fantasy...? WTF is that supposed to mean, just because it sounds deep and meaningful doesn't make it so. Who decided people are living is this so called fantasy? You two?Let me guess, you'll get upset that I questioned what you said, here's a hint, say something that makes sense and you won't get asked to clarify. Seriously though, what does "living in nothing more than a fantasy." mean? How is that relevant to the topic of abortion.
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'living in nothing more than a fantasy'=Getting your ****ing hopes up! Way up!
Do you understand now? If you hope for something that walks on the line of either life or death from the beginning anyways, then you're stupid for doing so if you don't have some sort of plan to support yourself if you somehow lose the fetus during the pregnancy.
Originally posted by Phoenix2001
..........................'living in nothing more than a fantasy'=Getting your ****ing hopes up! Way up!
Do you understand now? If you hope for something that walks on the line of either life or death from the beginning anyways, then you're stupid for doing so if you don't have some sort of plan to support yourself if you somehow lose the fetus during the pregnancy.
That is irrelevant to abortion. I know you think this nihilistic 'nothing matters' attitude is a solid foundation to stand on, but we're talking about the potential to kill a person.
Also, fetus's do not 'walk the line between life and death' as you state, compare the number of births to the number of miscarriages annually and you'll see that. In fact, the first few weeks of a pregnancy an embryo is extremely resilient.
There are many valid talking points for pro-choice, you choose to ignore those and go with 'Who cares.' attitude. Not a wise choice.
Originally posted by Robtard
Living in nothing more than fantasy...? WTF is that supposed to mean, just because it sounds deep and meaningful doesn't make it so. Who decided people are living is this so called fantasy? You two?
Again, you are too devoid of perceptive abilities to grasp the point. What we are saying is that you should use "It will become a future..." etc in your argument, purely because the future is conceptual. All that truly exists is the time we live in, the present. So concentrate on what it IS, not what you think it might be, or selfishly hope it will be, to aid your argument.
Originally posted by Robtard
Again, all you can do is insult me while saying 'I'm not insulting you. Sad and childish.
Apparantly all you can say is "Sad and childish."
Originally posted by Robtard
Blantant but irrelevant.
It's not irrelevant, you did it. Being able to get points is crucial to a debate.
Originally posted by Robtard
"(Stomp stomp) Im right you're wrong because I say so!"
Yes, I'm clearly the sad and childish one out of the two of us...
Not too sure where I said that, either.
Originally posted by Robtard
Good catch, I see you resort to pointing out typos, wow, thats a valid from of debate.
More valid than you replying to each and every part of the post to make it look like you have things to say.
Originally posted by Robtard
Does this mean the wedding is off? And, I hope you're aware, if you do not want to listen to opposing views, you shouldn't post your own views in a debate forum. Just a F.Y.I.
You're the one making up quotes and avoiding any point I've made, so it's ironic once again.
-AC
Originally posted by Robtard
That is irrelevant to abortion. I know you think this nihilistic 'nothing matters' attitude is a solid foundation to stand on, but we're talking about the potential to kill a person.
No we're not, we're talking about killing a foetus. A foetus isn't a person.
You are the one using hypotheticals and hyperbolic scenarios that have nothing to do with abortion, in hopes of barricading the door shut. You did it to me earlier, you asked me a question that had nothing to do with abortion, now you are slyly trying to weasel out of it.
Originally posted by Robtard
Also, fetus's do not 'walk the line between life and death' as you state, compare the number of births to the number of miscarriages annually and you'll see that. In fact, the first few weeks of a pregnancy an embryo is extremely resilient.There are many valid talking points for pro-choice, you choose to ignore those and go with 'Who cares.' attitude. Not a wise choice.
Nobody has given any yet. I've seen you and about 50 people with your views come and go, nobody has given any reasonable argument based on present day factual and scientific info. Plenty of conceptual, religious and emotional buzz word arguments, but nothing concrete.
-AC
Originally posted by Robtard
Same reason you're parents decided things for you... Children are not mature enough to make the best decisions for themselves sometimes. A parents responsibility is deciding for a childs best interest, or at least that is one of the numerous aspects of being a parent. Go ask for parents, they'll tell ya.
Like I said, It's not there body.
Originally posted by Phoenix2001
So, too, do I think of your arguments to be irrelevant.
You're welcome to do so. But at least I bring up valid talking points compared to your (and you're not the only one) 'We kill bacteria and thats ok...' or "Life is just a fantasy...' which in no way validate your view. Don't get me wrong, they would validate your views if you wanted to kill yourself, but we're not talking about that are we.
Originally posted by Robtard
You're welcome to do so. But at least I bring up valid talking points compared to your (and you're not the only one) 'We kill bacteria and thats ok...' or "Life is just a fantasy...' which in no way validate your view. Don't get me wrong, they would validate your views if you wanted to kill yourself, but we're not talking about that are we.
Phoenix never said life is just a fantasy. She/He was referring to the point that people should stop living in the future when abortion is being discussed, and concentrate on what the foetus actually IS now, in this present day. Not what it would be if we left it, because that's stupid. A foetus has as much future as it's mother decides it will have, none if need be.
Once again, another point goes flying over your head.
-AC
Originally posted by aclj
Abortion? Only if the woman is raped should she have this option. Otherwise, enter adoption into the picture
Or enter adoption into the picture WITH abortion and let her choose, could work.
Originally posted by Kritish
A woman should always have the right to choose, getting pregnant isn't someones fault.
Correction: A woman should always have the right to choose, getting pregnant isn't someone else's business.
-AC