I myself was an unwanted baby. My Mom told me straight out that she was hours from having me aborted, and I don't know about you guys but I would miss me 😛 and I am exceptionally successful, 6 years of honors, 5 AP classes, GATE, Academic Decathelon...... 😬 college..... It makes me sick to think of all the others who were slaughtered.... who were not given a chance like me.... 🙁
I have two friends that were adopted...but my best friend was had by accident...however they went through with it...It would suck if I had never met him...he's awesome...
And Fiery Eyes, its good to have another like you here...
and didn't ya know? Fetuses aren't babies!!! They aren't even human yet! Geez (Sarcasm)
Originally posted by RaventheOnly
I myself was an unwanted baby. My Mom told me straight out that she was hours from having me aborted, and I don't know about you guys but I would miss me 😛 and I am exceptionally successful, 6 years of honors, 5 AP classes, GATE, Academic Decathelon...... 😬 college..... It makes me sick to think of all the others who were slaughtered.... who were not given a chance like me.... 🙁
Actually, you wouldn't miss you, because you would never have had the chance to understand what it means to "miss" anything because you never would have been alive.
First of all, I hate abortion, because I see it as murder.
Secondly, with stem cell reasurch, there is this big misconception going on. Fetal stem cell reasurch is not very far along and is not actually super useful. What is much more useful is adult stem cells, taken from adults without killing them. This reasurch is very advanced and is already being used.
Originally posted by hunchy
Well, for one rape is different because it was not their choice to get knocked up...they were forced to...and then caused them to get pregnent...Whereas, if your doing it with someone and its your choice, you are taking the risk of getting pregnant...protection or not...it still can happen, so that's why I said it was different. I still can't really say for sure if I'm for it in that case...You think that everyone is one sided...there are no differences in some cases and there are...so don't try to label me as an extremist...As a side note:
I still don't get it. when you kill someone, may it be because the bugger owed you money, because the bugger offended your mother or simply because you disliked the color of his hair, it's still murder, and that's what you believe abortion to be, isn't it? so even though the mother sure as hell didn't choose to get raped and pregnant, it would still be murder should she choose to terminate her pregnancy, wouldn't it? why suddenly not? and why only in this case and not in those I listed in my previous post? because it's your personal oppinion? why's this worth more than the ones of those women choosing to go through an abortion for other reasons than rape?
and btw, where in my post did I state that everyone's one-sided? and that you're an extremist?
regarding your post on illegal abortions: yes, some women do choose to risk their lives terminating their pregnancies. they don't do this for fun, but because they have reasons for this that are far more 'brutal', as you call it, than the act itself.
Roscoe: you misunderstood me. please read yerssot's post ( not the one where he's quoting (as ususal 😛 )) for a beautifull translation.
Originally posted by RaventheOnly
no i know it is a hard choice and many feel horrible afterwards, but really i have the sickos in mind that really don't give a damn, and just go and do someone again later that week. I think if you had a valid reason, both at heart, and logically, you should have no trouble doing such an act.
these 'sickos' as you call them might have been prevented from happening if only they'd been better informed about contraceptions. that's proven. sure, some people'll never learn, but should they have the responsibility for their own operation?
no. even with a valid reason for going through an abortion it is a terrible experience and forcing someone to go through all the preparations as you so sympathetically suggest is cruel ( strange, coming from a selfless person defending life) and will most likely scar the person for life. why so keen on saving a fetus with no idea of itself and making life hell for a living woman?
Originally posted by Myth
So what you are saying is that we should be able to kill if it helps our own selfish mindset.
Good God, I would never have expected such bullshit from you Myth. Selfish mindset? Oh yeah, I'm sure that a victim of rape would be more worried about her being considered selfish should she choose to abort than having to carry the result of her horrific ordeal around for 9 months. Oh, and then there's the years to come after the birth where she will look at her child and relive the horror every single time. In this case, the ends justify the means. And don't give me that crap about the child being adopted. I'm sure I could go through the pregnancy and then the birth and just hand my child over. I tell you what you should do. Go get yourself raped, gat pregnant, carry that child around for 9 months, give birth, hand it over to an adoption agency and then come back here and tell us about your experience and how you feel. Oh, you can't, because for one you're a guy, and for another it simply isn't a tolerable concept.
Yes, I still think its wrong and it is still murder but rape IS a different case from the others...And I wasn't just referring to what you said...there are people on here that just think that I think that people that are for abortion are evil, etc, etc...and just think that I am so extreme...So I never said you said it...I said to whomever, don't try to label me as an extremist...
"I still don't get it. when you kill someone, may it be because the bugger owed you money, because the bugger offended your mother or simply because you disliked the color of his hair, it's still murder, and that's what you believe abortion to be, isn't it? so even though the mother sure as hell didn't choose to get raped and pregnant, it would still be murder should she choose to terminate her pregnancy, wouldn't it? why suddenly not? and why only in this case and not in those I listed in my previous post? because it's your personal oppinion? why's this worth more than the ones of those women choosing to go through an abortion for other reasons than rape?
and btw, where in my post did I state that everyone's one-sided? and that you're an extremist?
regarding your post on illegal abortions: yes, some women do choose to risk their lives terminating their pregnancies. they don't do this for fun, but because they have reasons for this that are far more 'brutal', as you call it, than the act itself.
Roscoe: you misunderstood me. please read yerssot's post ( not the one where he's quoting (as ususal )) for a beautifull translation."
Originally posted by BackFire
Actually, you wouldn't miss you, because you would never have had the chance to understand what it means to "miss" anything because you never would have been alive.
if an organism grows, absorbs food, its alive, and it can feel 😛 no scientist can say for sure that they do not feel 😛
Originally posted by Line
these 'sickos' as you call them might have been prevented from happening if only they'd been better informed about contraceptions. that's proven. sure, some people'll never learn, but should they have the responsibility for their own operation?no. even with a valid reason for going through an abortion it is a terrible experience and forcing someone to go through all the preparations as you so sympathetically suggest is cruel ( strange, coming from a selfless person defending life) and will most likely scar the person for life. why so keen on saving a fetus with no idea of itself and making life hell for a living woman?
You are killing an entity derived from YOURSELF, you should have an oblegation to know what is going on in an operation. If you are not willing to kill it for yourself, then you probably shouldn't be killing it to begin with.
What is crueler? extinguising life? or remembering it?
Originally posted by Silver StardustAnd the whole "it's killing a person" thing is really weak because we have pro-lifers who kill doctors that perform abortions. A tiny bit hypocritical, huh?
I don't have time right now to respond to much of the comments but this one will be quick. You can't disclaim the arguement because of a few extremist retards that kill doctors. Most pro-life people don't want these doctors to die. We just want them to stop. We don't think of these doctors as evil. We think of them as ignorant. I'm sure the few people that do kill these doctors feel they are doing justice while killing babies is obviously killing innocence (they don't view the doctors as innocent). The doctors that do abortions either don't view the babies as life (I think they are just wrong and don't realize it) or they are greedy (this one is evil).
i am pro life ✅ abortion IS murder period, i believe when the sperm meets the egg there is life inside of you.
but i do not believe in killing abortion surgeons or whatever they're called ❌ because i do not believe in an eye for an eye
the death a human being sickens me beyond all imagination 😬
One of the young ladies in my class believes that partial birth abortion is only ok if the mothers life is at risk, i bring up the question would you rather murder the baby or have the mother die naturally. she said it wouldnt be murder if you kill the baby in order to save the mother which is a terrible misconception.
I say It doesen't matter,
Liek the old saying goes, "I may disagree with your opinion but I will fight to the death for your right to say it"
Who are you to tell a mother what she can and cannot do, its like gay marrage. Its simply your poinion, just because you don't agree with it doesn't mean the entire world has to side with you.