Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
Yea, noone is denying it is human. It's not a chicken fetus. But it's not a person. Even your source doesn't dare call it a person, they call it a fetus.The difference is that while they both are dependant on something to survive, the car accident victim has family, friends, aquaintences, and an actual life. People will be sorry that he's gone, because they knew him and developed an emotional attachement. What does the fetus have? It's mother, and if she's getting an abortion, the mother either doesn't want or can't have him. That fetus has no other relationships(an argument can be made for the father i guess) and if his mother can't/won't have it, it has nothing. It's abortion will effect NOONE.
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
What about the father ? 😉
Maybe you missed this line: That fetus has no other relationships(an argument can be made for the father i guess) and if his mother can't/won't have it, it has nothing.
Besides, the father isn't the one giving birth, the woman has final say.
Originally posted by Arachnoidfreak
Maybe you missed this line: That fetus has no other relationships(an argument can be made for the father i guess) and if his mother can't/won't have it, it has nothing.Besides, the father isn't the one giving birth, the woman has final say.
The mother does have more say than the father, yes I agree.
But that does not alleviate the point that a father's future son or daughter would be killed before it has a chance to even know him. There are many fathers who suffer over thier girlfreind's/wive's abortion, and there is no way you can minimize that suffering if you never felt it yourself. Even still.....you couldn't.
Originally posted by Robtard
It's just a fetus. You are suspending the belief that it [B]isn't a person because you know that admitting otherwise would make you look a bit silly.See, I can do it too... [/B]
The difference is, you just said the same thing. Mine was true, yours wasn't. Mine is backed up by the fact that you'll find no credible scientist or doctor refer to a foetus as a person, yours is backed up by you.
-AC
Originally posted by PVS
see bardock?funny AND ironic 😂
Funny? Sure, I can flow with that. Ironic? No, more like unfortunate.
Don't be fooled by the Alannis Morissette song 'Ironic', though popular at the time, it spurned the over use of the word ironic, the the crap "It's like rain on your wedding day." is not irony, just an unfortunate event.
A factory that makes fire extinguishers happens to burn down. That's irony.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
The difference is, you just said the same thing. Mine was true, yours wasn't. Mine is backed up by the fact that you'll find no credible scientist or doctor refer to a foetus as a person, yours is backed up by you.-AC
But every scientist and doctor will confirm that the Fetus is human. 😉
Originally posted by Robtard
Funny? Sure, I can flow with that. Ironic? No, more like unfortunate.Don't be fooled by the Alannis Morissette song 'Ironic', though popular at the time, it spurned the over use of the word ironic, the the crap "It's like rain on your wedding day." is not irony, just an unfortunate event.
A factory that makes fire extinguishers happens to burn down. [B]That's irony.
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irony is dealing a cheap shot and then announcing that you erased your previous post because it was a cheap shot and you're just so above that sort of thing...in the same post none the less
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
But every scientist and doctor will confirm that the Fetus is human. 😉
This was never being debated, what was being debated is if it's a person or not, it's not. I suggest being on point.
Originally posted by Robtard
Funny? Sure, I can flow with that. Ironic? No, more like unfortunate.Don't be fooled by the Alannis Morissette song 'Ironic', though popular at the time, it spurned the over use of the word ironic, the the crap "It's like rain on your wedding day." is not irony, just an unfortunate event.
A factory that makes fire extinguishers happens to burn down. That's irony.
This coming from the guy who previously said picking at grammatical faults is ad hominem and pathetic.
You can't make your mind up.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
The difference is, you just said the same thing. Mine was true, yours wasn't. Mine is backed up by the fact that you'll find no credible scientist or doctor refer to a foetus as a person, yours is backed up by you.-AC
Believe that you are right and I am wrong, you have facts and I have nothing. It's all good.
I am done arguing the topic of abortion with you though; it has circled the drain relentlessly and is in need of a flushing. Take my backing out any which way you will.
Cheers!
Originally posted by Robtard
Believe that you are right and I am wrong, you have facts and I have nothing. It's all good.I am done arguing the topic of abortion with you though; it has circled the drain relentlessly and is in need of a flushing. Take my backing out any which way you will.
Cheers!
AC WINS!!!! AC WINS THE THREAD!!!! 😱
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
This was never being debated, what was being debated is if it's a person or not, it's not. I suggest being on point.This coming from the guy who previously said picking at grammatical faults is ad hominem and pathetic.
You can't make your mind up.
-AC
I wasn't insulting him and I hope he didn't take it as such. Put your little kitty claws away.