Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Does a human stop being human after he/she dies ?
yes...well...they become a human corpse i guess.
i dont know, where is the line? what if someone dies and
is cremated...is that pile of ashes a human? or if you drain a corpse
of fluid and fill it with chemicals to preserve it, is that still a human?
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
At least get original material, dude...come on.If you dive in the same pond, you're all swimming. If you need that explained, just ask.
This forum is full of a lot of stupid people. Not because they disagree, but because they are stupid. I've seen debates where people are arguing the same point as me, we agree, but they're still doing it in a stupid way and saying unintelligible things.
Polls aren't official, I should hope you didn't think they were either. What counts is what's being said in a debate.
That's an extremely far fetched claim isn't it?
-AC
No, it's not that extremely far fetched. It's a little like this...
AC - "I think the color red is the prettiest color of all the colors on the rainbow..."
RBT- "I agree..."
AC - "You're an idiot for thinking that."
Originally posted by Lord Urizen
I have stated why I am pro-choice, but not pro-abortion. You, PVS, Adam Poe, Omega keep trying to label me the hypocrit or w/e when I am just making my stance clear.
WHAT stance? you haven't a solid stance on the issue at all. its like reading the ramblings of a stereotypical democrat. you think abortion is immoral, but you support a womans right to choose. that makes no sense. if you consider abortion to be killing and immoral and pretty much the act of killing an innocent human being, then how can you turn around and support a womans right to do it? that would mean you support the most unholy of unholies.
person: "im going to go stomp on some puppies, murder some kids, and rape an old lady"
you: "that is completely immoral and you are terrible for doing it...but i support your right to choose to do it"
Originally posted by PVS
person: "im going to go stomp on some puppies, murder some kids, and rape an old lady"you: "that is completely immoral and you are terrible for doing it...but i support your right to choose to do it"
I have to admit, that's pretty good. 😆 also from what I read I have to agree with PVS.
Oh.. God... did I just say what I think I said? AAAGH!
I'm gonna go shoot myself. 😐
Originally posted by PVS
so then we agree? you basically backed up what i said.
unless you operate under the false assumption that i think
abortion is "right". as i said before, in a perfect world there
would be no abortion.
Originally posted by PVS
thats a good thing, since i'm not against abortion.
Make up your damn mind!
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
He said there'd be no abortion in a perfect world, not that he's against it in the current world.He accepts that it exists, and although he doesn't particularly like it (I imagine), he isn't against it. Because you'll do more harm than good that way.
-AC
In what way? Being against it? And if that's the case then how does that do more harm than good?
Because if everyone was against abortion, abortion would be illegal more than likely. This would mean that women everywhere would be dying or getting seriously injured in back alley abortions or coathanger freestyles.
I don't care about anyone except those I love, those who are involved in my life, but I'd rather take care of living humans than force women to shove coathangers in unmentionable places to save a foetus.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I don't care about anyone except those I love and care about
I'm sorry to hear that.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Because if everyone was against abortion, abortion would be illegal more than likely.
I see no problem in that
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
This would mean that women everywhere would be dying or getting seriously injured in back alley abortions or coathanger freestyles.
-AC
Answer me this. Who's fault is it that they are going to back-alley abortionists?
Originally posted by LORD JLRTENJAC
Make up your damn mind!
in a perfect world there would be no unplanned pregnancy, thus no abortion. a perfect world does not involve people being forced into giving birth...or being forced to do/not do anything for that matter...because it would be perfect, get it? for instance there would be safe effective inexpensive practical and 100% birth control method that does not involve...not having sex.
speaking of which, since its well on topic, i love how bible thumpers preach abstinance, as if thats the solution.
reminds me of an old joke (funnier when spoken from an old brooklyn jewish or italian guy in bad english):
man: *rotates arm* doc, it hurts when i do this
doctor:*rotates arm* well dont do this no more
...accept thats just a joke, so i find it funny
Originally posted by Bardock42
Not really, that's a different thing...that people get killed in drug wars is the fault of people that outlawed drugs though.
How? it was the people's choice to do drugs, to that extreme. You can't blame what you do on someone else. Those people chose to do the drugs. Which they continued to do untill they dug themselves in so far that they ended up in that war. And in the end died for something not worth dying for.
Originally posted by LORD JLRTENJAC
How? it was the people's choice to do drugs, to that extreme. You can't blame what you do on someone else. Those people chose to do the drugs. Which they continued to do untill they dug themselves in so far that they ended up in that war. And in the end died for something not worth dying for.
I am not saying the drugies would be innocent. But if no one outtawed it in the first place it would never happen...get it? The original cause is the banning.