Originally posted by LORD JLRTENJAC
And in the end died for something not worth dying for.
You'd probably be better off letting them decide if it was worth dying for.
If they knew the risks, they made their choice. If they didn't, then they clearly didn't educate themselves anyway. No loss.
I appreciate the "I better say what I think of their actions" rationale, but they probably don't care.
-AC
Originally posted by PVS
in a perfect world there would be no unplanned pregnancy, thus no abortion. a perfect world does not involve people being forced into giving birth...or being forced to do/not do anything for that matter...because it would be perfect, get it? for instance there would be safe effective inexpensive practical and 100% birth control method that does not involve...not having sex.speaking of which, since its well on topic, i love how bible thumpers preach abstinance, as if thats the solution.
reminds me of an old joke (funnier when spoken from an old brooklyn jewish or italian guy in bad english):
man: *rotates arm* doc, it hurts when i do this
doctor:*rotates arm* well dont do this no more
...accept thats just a joke, so i find it funny
There is a difference between sex and rotating your arm. I am for abstinance. I mean seariously. Sex is for re-production, to keep the human race alive. Not cheep thrills!
Oh and by the way, don't call us bible thumpers. Call us by the religion we are of. Christians.
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
You'd probably be better off letting them decide if it was worth dying for.If they knew the risks, they made their choice. If they didn't, then they clearly didn't educate themselves anyway. No loss.
I appreciate the "I better say what I think of their actions" rationale, but they probably don't care.
-AC
I pity you, you just don't any respect for human life do you?
Originally posted by LORD JLRTENJAC
There is a difference between sex and rotating your arm. I am for abstinance. I mean seariously. Sex is for re-production, to keep the human race alive. Not cheep thrills!Oh and by the way, don't call us bible thumpers. Call us by the religion we are of. Christians.
Excuse me while I erupt with a riotous laughter.
-AC
Originally posted by LORD JLRTENJAC
There is a difference between sex and rotating your arm. I am for abstinance. I mean seariously. Sex is for re-production, to keep the human race alive. Not cheep thrills!
your pointless and pompous statements of personal principle dictated as what all should be forced to do makes you look like hitler jr.
Originally posted by PVS
your pointless and pompous statements of personal principle dictated as what all should be forced to do makes you look like hitler jr.
Oh, so when I hold to morals, try to share those morals, I am suddenly Hitler jr? Hitler tried to esterminate the Jewish race, and then tried to kill Germany. I think there is a difference.
Originally posted by Bardock42
If youa re forcing your morals on other people...then yeah...close.
I'm not forcing them. I love how when you TELL people of your morals, and where you stand they say "OMFG stop FORCING your morals on me!"
same with Christians. We tell the people about our beliefs and they say "OMG they are trying to force me to be a christian!"
you know what I think it is? I think you know I'm right, but you don't want me to be. So therefore you hide from it, say I am forcing my morals on you. But I know you will flat deny it, which just supports my beliefs.
Originally posted by LORD JLRTENJAC
I'm not forcing them. I love how when you TELL people of your morals, and where you stand they say "OMFG stop FORCING your morals on me!"same with Christians. We tell the people about our beliefs and they say "OMG they are trying to force me to be a christian!"
Originally posted by Bardock42
No, no, it is all dandy if you tell us about it, we might disagree, but as soon as you act on it, and actually outlaw abortions (as people did in one of this Dakota states) they are actually forcing their morals on others...that's where it starts being annoying.
annoying? oh, I didn't think annoying and wrong were synonomus. oh, and an interesting fact: people who have sex before marriage are more likely to have an unwanted pregnancy, unless it is a man rapeing a woman. Makes you think, doesn't it?
Originally posted by PVS
speaking of which, since its well on topic, i love how bible thumpers preach abstinance, as if thats the solution.
reminds me of an old joke (funnier when spoken from an old brooklyn jewish or italian guy in bad english):
man: *rotates arm* doc, it hurts when i do this
doctor:*rotates arm* well dont do this no more
...accept thats just a joke, so i find it funny
abstinance until marriage. lets face it, sex before then or when one is pretty young is dangerous for both the person and the possible baby. adoption works sometime, but when i visit an orphanage i want to shoot myself for not being able to take all those sweet kids with me. its unfortunate for kids, but would you rather kill them? no, they have food, shelter, friends and somewhat of an education.
Originally posted by .😖pace Opera:.
abstinance until marriage. lets face it, sex before then or when one is pretty young is dangerous for both the person and the possible baby. adoption works sometime, but when i visit an orphanage i want to shoot myself for not being able to take all those sweet kids with me. its unfortunate for kids, but would you rather kill them? no, they have food, shelter, friends and somewhat of an education.
Thank you, Space Opera.
Originally posted by LORD JLRTENJAC
I'm not forcing them. I love how when you TELL people of your morals, and where you stand they say "OMFG stop FORCING your morals on me!"same with Christians. We tell the people about our beliefs and they say "OMG they are trying to force me to be a christian!"
you know what I think it is? I think you know I'm right, but you don't want me to be. So therefore you hide from it, say I am forcing my morals on you. But I know you will flat deny it, which just supports my beliefs.
this is a completely nonsensical dodging of the point. this is not generally accepted as moral or immoral, like murder (LEGAL MURDER so nobody start with that shit again) or rape or kiddie porn etc. that is what law is based on: general morality. not this 51%/49% majority rules technicallity turning into enforced law bullshit. you cant base moral judgement on a ****ing single digit percentage difference.
FACT: roughly 50% of americans want to impose their own moral beliefs on the other 50%, and you're one of them.
Originally posted by PVS
this is a completely nonsensical dodging of the point. this is not generally accepted as moral or immoral, like murder (LEGAL MURDER so nobody start with that shit again) or rape or kiddie porn etc. that is what law is based on: general morality. not this 51%/49% majority rules technicallity turning into enforced law bullshit.FACT: roughly 50% of americans want to impose their own moral beliefs on the other 50%, and you're one of them.
No I am not. Not once have I said "You have to belive this". that is imposing moral beliefs. what I have done is VOICE my beliefs.