Abortion

christ, any mammal not including homo sapiens, clear enough for you?

ok, i do believe that abortion is something that should be legalised but not abused, there are times when its neccessary, but it should never be abused, ever. as for animals, i abhorr cruelty to animals in laboratories and the massacre of endangered species.

i believe a human life is more important than an animals in all cases, but thats beside the point.

i know that in my heart if my gf was in danger during pregnancy id have no hesitation in ordering an abortion if she was incapacitated. ive gone through worse shit in my life than that so i know id be capable of it.

as for animals the thread is goin way offtopic.

I didn't mean to get off topic...but it seemed to be heading that way anyway when I got here...I agree, if my wife was dying during labor or abortion, I'd go for my wife over the child too...hands down...and I wasn't trying to prove anything really by the definitions of animals and humans...

no worries hunchy

Cool, cool...So you believe in abortion in some cases or what?

yes, sometimes it is imo a neccessary evil, im not sure if its morally right or not, but i think its needed the way society is today.

I'm still not fully decided on the issue...but if my wife was dying or something I would have them take her instead of the baby...or if there is a rape...I'm not sure if its right or not...but I can see the need in that case...people say, if your against it your against it...but no, because if your just doing it with some guy and you want to, you know the risks...whereas in rape you didn't want it...at all...and didn't have a choice or a chance to stop the risk...and if the choice is between your wife or the child...its with my wife...the existing human...and my wife...and not the unborn child...in other cases, besides these...I think its wrong...Overall I think its wrong...but sometimes like the instances I have explained I can see WHY they would want to...if its just from screwing around literally...you knew the risk...don't kill the baby for it...

everybody their own, thats what i always say

Sorry. What?

Abortion is murder.

and of course it is allowed by law in few aspects (like rape)
but it is still wrong. and i understand that the girl who is pregnat may not feel like giving birth to the child, but she should gain ll the support from the family and goverment and some charity organisations and so on..

the act of abortion itself is:
a/ dangerous to the potential mother
b/ disgusting

the child (even it is no called so oficial) has it's spine, brain and other organs formed very early so don't tell shit that in 3st trimester it's not a human being coz it is. even though it can 't survive on it own

well Norwegian law has decleared that the act of abortion is not murder, so as for Norway abortion is not consider murder regardless what some religious fanantics may say

"the child (even it is no called so oficial) has it's spine, brain and other organs formed very early so don't tell shit that in 3st trimester it's not a human being coz it is. even though it can 't survive on it own"

If you class cells as a human, yes it is.

In the reality we live in, it's not though. Therefore there is nothing murderous about abortion. It's a choice and if you or the government are gonna force women to have these babies, don't go calling them bad parents when they leave the kids they don't want in dumpsters or give them bad lives.

"I'm still not fully decided on the issue...but if my wife was dying or something I would have them take her instead of the baby...or if there is a rape...I'm not sure if its right or not"

Of course abortion is right, first of all. Second, if there's rape then there can be no question as to right or wrong. "Hmm, I don't like abortion because I value human life so high, therefore this woman's life-changing and shattering ordeal must be allowed to come to fruition just because I don't like the idea of abortion." If you don't like abortion, don't have one. Let those who need and want to, get it done.

-AC

Originally posted by pr1983
yes they are, they also have feelings and a personality.

humans are animals, but they are the most evolved and u can be damn sure id choose a human over an animal.

1. Not at the moment. Some people's brains stop functioning in that way and have no feelings or personality. Some are in a dream like state, those do have feelings/personality, but what about the ones that lose their brain function while in a coma?

2. Glad to hear it. Not to mention, humans are our own kind. Kind of like, you can feed a dog meat, but its weird to feed it dog meat. You just don't do certain things to your own kind.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

In the reality we live in, it's not though. Therefore there is nothing murderous about abortion. It's a choice and if you or the government are gonna force women to have these babies, don't go calling them bad parents when they leave the kids they don't want in dumpsters or give them bad lives.

-AC

Are you f*cking serious? Are you saying that if we rid of abortion, dumping babies off in dumpsters would be justified? You are one sick mother f*cker.

Not sure if people can make sense of this or this

Originally posted by pr1983
ok, i do believe that abortion is something that should be legalised but not abused

😕

I thought abortion was legal.....

Originally posted by Myth
Are you f*cking serious? Are you saying that if we rid of abortion, dumping babies off in dumpsters would be justified? You are one sick mother f*cker.

I think you'll find that AC said nothing of the sort Myth. He was simply pointing out the possible consequences of making abortion completely illegal, everywhere. Already children are being abandoned, beaten, abused etc, don't you think it would be a hell of a lot worse if abortion was definitely not an option? Come on, be realistic please. Not every single woman who becomes pregnant has the right motherly instincts, nor do potential fathers for that matter. What gives you the right to say that every pregnancy should be followed through? Do you see these parents to be? Do you interview them? No, so until you've had the experience of actually meeting a few of the people you are determined should be parents no matter what, I don't think you have the right to say that every child should be born, that abortion is murder and that AC is "one sick mother f*cker" for simply having his eyes open.

Abortions legal in the British isles but depending on where you stand on the matter will ultimately depend on whether you think it should be or not. Its such a difficult subject to comment on because it is littered with 'trap doors' so to speak. I personally (this is just my opnion) think it varies between case to case you can't just say its right or wrong ( i think) because every case will be different, and the need for abortion in that particular case will vary also.

Originally posted by wicker_man
Abortions legal in the British isles but depending on where you stand on the matter will ultimately depend on whether you think it should be or not. Its such a difficult subject to comment on because it is littered with 'trap doors' so to speak. I personally (this is just my opnion) think it varies between case to case you can't just say its right or wrong ( i tihkn) because every case will be different, and the need for abortion will vary also.

That's an extremely clear opinion, some might see it as a cop out but I think it's the only fair way to comment 😉

Originally posted by Syren
That's an extremely clear opinion, some might see it as a cop out but I think it's the only fair way to comment 😉

Cheers Syren, its just a personal opnion, i'd personally not want to ever go through.