Originally posted by wicker_man
Cheers Syren, its just a personal opnion, i'd personally not want to ever go through.
No problem, I mean, you could have listed the pros and cons but to be perfectly honest enough people have done it through the duration of this thread, I personally think it's just going round in circles now anyway 😬
Originally posted by Syren
No problem, I mean, you could have listed the pros and cons but to be perfectly honest enough people have done it through the duration of this thread, I personally think it's just going round in circles now anyway 😬
Indeed i've seen threads in similar situations going on for ages just regurgitating the same things over and over again.
"Are you f*cking serious? Are you saying that if we rid of abortion, dumping babies off in dumpsters would be justified? You are one sick mother f*cker."
No. I'm saying if you want abortion illegalised then don't piss and moan when a woman falls pregnant with an unwanted child and throws it in the trash, literally. You made her have it, she didn't want it and it could have been prevented from having such a possibly sad outcome. Yet due to your self-righteousness and selfishness, you have forced her to have the child. So don't moan with how she deals with it. Your argument is that it's wrong to kill the human (that scientifically isn't even there). So by having the baby that she doesn't want she's giving you your wish, therefore don't moan as to how she deals with it.
Like people who say Bush should be out and they hate him but refuse to vote. They then, in my opinion, forfeit the right to complain. Like abortion you see. If you say killing the cells and preventing a baby being born unwanted and unloved, is wrong and force her to have the kid. Then you have no right to say what she does with it is appauling should you disagree with it, because you made her have it. It wouldn't have to be thrown in a dumpster to die if you had let her do what she wants with her life in the first place.
Bottom line: No one's asking you to have an abortion. Let those who want to have it, have it. You are not to judge if it's for wrong or right reasons no matter how shitty or justifiable those reasons may seem. The fact is, if loss of life is your concern, isn't it better to prevent the life being created THEN lost, than to let it come to life and be taken away by much harsher means?
-AC
Originally posted by Clovie
Abortion is murder.and of course it is allowed by law in few aspects (like rape)
but it is still wrong. and i understand that the girl who is pregnat may not feel like giving birth to the child, but she should gain ll the support from the family and goverment and some charity organisations and so on..the act of abortion itself is:
a/ dangerous to the potential mother
b/ disgustingthe child (even it is no called so oficial) has it's spine, brain and other organs formed very early so don't tell shit that in 3st trimester it's not a human being coz it is. even though it can 't survive on it own
Becarful using abortion and rape in same sentence, Yrssst, MAY wish that that happens to you. 😉
Originally posted by RaventheOnly
It is a punishment. The life you are egstinguishing is BEING KILLED. A mother should remember for all time the action they are partaking in..... if they are not willing to do so then they really haven't thought the procedure through or researched it enough.Its funny how we get sex education, but we don't get abortion education.... i think the procedures undertaken should really be made clear. Because seriously people.... its horrible... if i performed the same on an adult.... I would be considered a monster. Geffery Dommer did things similar to what the "doctors" do.
Considering that everything that a doctor takes an oath for is completely taken back on during an abortion... they should not be considered a doctor anymore.
no, it's a consequence. some of the people against abortion on this thread blame pregnant women who want an abortion of being irresponsible and not taking the consequences for their actions. I find this wrong. abortion IS a consequence and a consequence you, in most cases, don't choose unless sure it's the right thing to do. was it a punishment it would have to be an adition to the actual operation.
I agree with you that information on abortion should be part of the sex-ed, but not as something to scare the young girls to death but to inform of the procedures and possible risks.
there are different ways of saving lives. why bring to life a child that'll destroy the life quality of the mother who'll in return destroy the life quality of the child?
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
"Are you f*cking serious? Are you saying that if we rid of abortion, dumping babies off in dumpsters would be justified? You are one sick mother f*cker."No. I'm saying if you want abortion illegalised then don't piss and moan when a woman falls pregnant with an unwanted child and throws it in the trash, literally. You made her have it, she didn't want it and it could have been prevented from having such a possibly sad outcome. Yet due to your self-righteousness and selfishness, you have forced her to have the child. So don't moan with how she deals with it. Your argument is that it's wrong to kill the human (that scientifically isn't even there). So by having the baby that she doesn't want she's giving you your wish, therefore don't moan as to how she deals with it.
Like people who say Bush should be out and they hate him but refuse to vote. They then, in my opinion, forfeit the right to complain. Like abortion you see. If you say killing the cells and preventing a baby being born unwanted and unloved, is wrong and force her to have the kid. Then you have no right to say what she does with it is appauling should you disagree with it, because you made her have it. It wouldn't have to be thrown in a dumpster to die if you had let her do what she wants with her life in the first place.
Bottom line: No one's asking you to have an abortion. Let those who want to have it, have it. You are not to judge if it's for wrong or right reasons no matter how shitty or justifiable those reasons may seem. The fact is, if loss of life is your concern, isn't it better to prevent the life being created THEN lost, than to let it come to life and be taken away by much harsher means?
-AC
Prevention is better than the cure. 😉
And Myth? Would you be prepared to take in every single child that would be born should you have your way? That's a hell of a lot of unfortunate souls that your wish 'gave life' to, apparently. You say that every child should be given the opportunity to have a life, but I personally believe that for every one mother who has the unwanted child and turns out to be a good mom, there will be hundreds of children dying/being abused too. Is that the kind of chance you'd like to give generations to come? Please, have a little think about your righteousness and decide whether your intentions would indeed be as beneficial as you seem to believe.
Originally posted by Fiery Eyes
Becarful using abortion and rape in same sentence, Yrssst, MAY wish that that happens to you. 😉
FE, that was completely unnecessary. If every member you have insulted decided to hold a grudge against you for being 'bigoted' and 'obnoxious' you'd be driven out. Let it go sweetie.
"You say that every child should be given the opportunity to have a life"
I believe this. Which is why I say don't let them be born if they aren't gonna have a life. People take the term "Deserving life" too literally. I believe they deserve a good QUALITY of life if they are going to be born. If it's known before hand that those cells will become a baby who will not have that, then abortion is just. If someone abuses the privilege of having abortions at their disposal, that's the price you pay. Guns are legal, I'm sure many people use them fairly to protect their homes if need be. But others go out and kill with them, this isn't reason to make guns illegal is it? Coz you'd all say "It's a constitutional right." Well it's a birthright to choose whatever you feel is right, in life.
So let them.
-AC
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
"You say that every child should be given the opportunity to have a life"I believe this. Which is why I say don't let them be born if they aren't gonna have a life. People take the term "Deserving life" too literally. I believe they deserve a good QUALITY of life if they are going to be born. If it's known before hand that those cells will become a baby who will not have that, then abortion is just. If someone abuses the privilege of having abortions at their disposal, that's the price you pay. Guns are legal, I'm sure many people use them fairly to protect their homes if need be. But others go out and kill with them, this isn't reason to make guns illegal is it? Coz you'd all say "It's a constitutional right." Well it's a birthright to choose whatever you feel is right, in life.
So let them.
-AC
My whole post (practically) was aimed at Myth, soz 😬 Except the italics, which were for you 😉
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
I know. I agreed with you then the rest of the post was to Myth.You're one of the few people I get along with yet we always tangle. We should tangle in some kind of OTHER environment heheheehe 😉?
.....no? FINE!
-AC
We tangle because we have similar levels of intelligence, but completely different ways of putting our views down. And I would love to tangle in other ways with you 😄