Abortion

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
not trying to force anything on anyone. you asked me questions, I answered. problem?

No, no, just pointing out where the problem comes in.

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
What is wrong with having a baby that has some little promblems?Nothing. Some parents feel bless to have a retrated child or one with leaning promblems.
It is not like it is the worst thing in the world you know.jm

Some don't. Whats your point?

And of course it is not the worst thing in the world, you are.

Hmm, which of course is directly related to retarded children.

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
What is wrong with having a baby that has some little promblems?Nothing. Some parents feel bless to have a retrated child or one with leaning promblems.
It is not like it is the worst thing in the world you know.jm

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
and we are back to the "It's the womans body, it's her choice" argument. what about the guy? he has NO say in it?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
and yes, I am expressing my views on this to the hypothetical woman.

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
What is wrong with having a baby that has some little promblems?Nothing. Some parents feel bless to have a retrated child or one with leaning promblems.
It is not like it is the worst thing in the world you know.jm

what about this, if the guy wants the fetus, we get it out of the woman's bpody and he can carry it?

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Does he intend to carry the pregnancy to term himself?

Why? You're not even the guy to the hypothetical woman. You're just a guy. A religious guy. Who plays no part in her hypothetical conception, pregnancy, labor and childcare. Yet you want to have some sort of influence in her hypothetical decision?

I have to say I argee with you with that!jm

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
I have to say I argee with you with that!jm

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
cop out. and stop mentioning my religion. Bardock asked me a religious question and i answered, so get over it.
just a guy...what happened to equality of the sexes? sure, she carries the baby, but she didnt make it all by herself. and have you forgotten who is there catching hell for 9 months? the guy. he is the one being treated like a slave, making late night runs to the grocery store for sardines and shit. so the woman carries the baby. thats the hand that was dealt to women. most women that i know, the ones who have been pregnant, consider it a privilege to carry the baby for 9 months, despite the physical discomfort.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
cop out. and stop mentioning my religion. Bardock asked me a religious question and i answered, so get over it.

just a guy...what happened to equality of the sexes? sure, she carries the baby, but she didnt make it all by herself. and have you forgotten who is there catching hell for 9 months? the guy. he is the one being treated like a slave, making late night runs to the grocery store for sardines and shit. so the woman carries the baby. thats the hand that was dealt to women. most women that i know, the ones who have been pregnant, consider it a privilege to carry the baby for 9 months, despite the physical discomfort.

Yes but your religion is were your stance on the topic comes from yes? i'm not bashing it, each to there own but you cant say stop mentioning it if thats what influences your view point.

When it comes to pregnancy there is no such thing as equality of the sexes, you think that catching ear ache and running to the shops is the same??

Hey I was saying it is not fair that a man can't say anything about a woman h aving an abortion.You sure don't know how to take a comperment when you get one.jm

Originally posted by Bardock42
That is incorrect. The guy can just leave and avpid any annoyance in the pregnancy. The woman can only have an abortion. And going by your logic the only thing he can have a say in is whether they do have an abortion, not not to have it.

he is there with her. he comforts her. sure, he doesnt squeeze it out of his peehole, but the guy has just as much of a role as the woman does in getting pregnant, being there for 9 months, and being a parent afterwards.

Originally posted by smoker4
Yes but your religion is were your stance on the topic comes from yes? i'm not bashing it, each to there own but you cant say stop mentioning it if thats what influences your view point.

When it comes to pregnancy there is no such thing as equality of the sexes, you think that catching ear ache and running to the shops is the same??

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
just a guy...

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
cop out. and stop mentioning my religion. Bardock asked me a religious question and i answered, so get over it.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
what happened to equality of the sexes?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
sure, she carries the baby, but she didnt make it all by herself. and have you forgotten who is there catching hell for 9 months? the guy. he is the one being treated like a slave, making late night runs to the grocery store for sardines and shit. so the woman carries the baby.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
thats the hand that was dealt to women.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
most women that i know, the ones who have been pregnant, consider it a privilege to carry the baby for 9 months, despite the physical discomfort.

Abortion has alot to do with religion it is what you believe in doing the right thing not the easy thing.Yea I am talking to myself I know!JM

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
Hey I was saying it is not fair that a man can't say anything about a woman h aving an abortion.You sure don't know how to take a comperment when you get one.jm

How is that a compliment?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
well, if he leaves, he doesnt really count as a man, does he? not much of one, anyways......

he is there with her. he comforts her. sure, he doesnt squeeze it out of his peehole, but the guy has just as much of a role as the woman does in getting pregnant, being there for 9 months, and being a parent afterwards.

But that doesn't mean he should havethe right to let the woman go through the 9 months and the emotional distress and the pain, right?

Let me show you this chart:

Woman: Abortion Man: Abortion -> Abortion
Woman: Abortion Man: No Abortion -> Abortion
Woman: No Abortion Man: Abortion -> Not certain, maybe there should be some more fairness. Though the woman would be the one who would have go through, so probably no Abortion.
Woman: No abortion Man: No Abortion -> No Abortion

Okay?

By saying I argee with him!jm

Originally posted by Bardock42
How is that a compliment?

But that doesn't mean he should havethe right to let the woman go through the 9 months and the emotional distress and the pain, right?

Let me show you this chart:

Woman: Abortion Man: Abortion -> Abortion
Woman: Abortion Man: No Abortion -> Abortion
Woman: No Abortion Man: Abortion -> Not certain, maybe there should be some more fairness. Though the woman would be the one who would have go through, so probably no Abortion.
Woman: No abortion Man: No Abortion -> No Abortion

Okay?

Heehee

What are Abortion Mans powers?

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
By saying I argee with him!jm

He agreed with you too.

Originally posted by smoker4
Heehee

What are Abortion Mans powers?

He has the power to kill innocent babies. He just has to beat them to death with an Iron rod

Now, you might say that is not really a superpower, but he feels no regret. See? He wins.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Yes, just a guy. Not the guy in the hypothetical scenario. Yet you feel the need to try and influence her autonomy.

I'm sorry, but when did gender equality apply to gestation. At what point did human men ever share an equal role in gestation?

Assuming the hypothetical sperm donor is even there, which isn't a given, you're equating the fact that he has to go to the store to her carrying a pregnancy in her body? haermm Which is why the decision of whether or not to carry a pregnancy to term or have an abortion is theirs to make.What a lovely yet pointless anecdote? If the hypothetical woman wants the "privilege" of pregnancy and childbirth, then she'll opt not to have an abortion.