Abortion

Got to go see you all later!jm

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Because apparently you lack the ability to follow a simple train of thought.i.e. said hypothetical woman.Me, commenting on how the decision is the hypothetical woman's, and that your personal religious views should have no bearing on her decision whatsoever.You, attempting to strawman as if I had said that you weren't allowed to express views in general.Me, commenting that in the situation I wouldn't express any view one way or the other.You, reiterating that you're commenting towards the hypothetical woman, despite having forgotten this now. Me, asking why, since you have no connection to the hypothetical woman whatsoever, you feel the need to try and have influence on her autonomy.You, trying to equate yourself to the hypothetical man in the hypothetical situation, despite that the hypothetical situation doesn't involve you.

And that leads us now to you asking why I'm referring to a hypothetical woman, in a hypothetical situation which you brought up to begin with.1) That sentence made no sense.
2) Gender equality with regard to gestation has never applied, "Better to be thought the fool..."
3) What you think has no bearing on what she decides to do. What you think is fair has no bearing. It is not your body, you do not intend to carry the pregnancy. What I think is fair has no bearing. It is not my body, I do not intend to carry the pregnancy. The hypothetical man's role in conception gives him some, but still limited relevance. The decision is hers.That is the extent to which a man plays in a pregnancy biologically, despite your lovely and descriptive attempt at strawmanning again. The hypothetical man is free to make his opinion known for the role he played in conception, but at the end of the day conception is where his biological contribution ended. The decision of whether to continue the process of pregnancy is hers.

Originally posted by smoker4
Again, who or what the f**k gives you the right to call them weak?

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
It is there fault as much as it is the mans.IF you think before you do something that you know what could happen you should not do it then!jm

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
what would you call it then?

I wouldnt call it anything i.e i wouldnt judge because its not my place to, see the difference?

Also i dont look at them as poor defenceless things either

Also if you have to look to JM to back up your arguement then the ship has not only sunk, its been torpedoed

Oh hooray, Jackie the village idiot agrees with you. Huzzah.

No one has called said women, poor and defenseless. No one has said they should be pitied. All they've said is that the choice is the woman's choice.

Meanwhile, you're happily judging away as if your views are of any relevance to said women.

To reiterate the earlier question: Who or what the fuck gives you the right to call them weak?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
you seriously can say that? that if the "nurturing environment" was not there, that you would have aborted them? how can you bring yourself to even look at them? you dont feel the slightest bit bad for that line of thinking?

Originally posted by smoker4

Thank you!!! i'd say will you have my babies if we were in a different thread 😉

Originally posted by smoker4
I wouldnt call it anything i.e i wouldnt judge because its not my place to, see the difference?

Also i dont look at them as poor defenceless things either

Also if you have to look to JM to back up your arguement then the ship has not only sunk, its been torpedoed

Originally posted by Shelbert Lemon
I said that seriously, yes. I dont feel bad, why should I? 😖 I never said I regret my daughters, did I? No.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
its the attitude of every prochoicer i have ever met. its always about the woman. she is a poor little defenseless thing who should be pitied.

its not how i see them, i am just saying.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
i need no one to back up anything. i just happen to agree with her on this issue. nice grade school tactics, BTW.

WTF are you on about? grade school tactics? How? See the difference is i haven't tried to win by insults, laughable

Originally posted by Shelbert Lemon

Another thread, then. Its a date. 😉 ... 😛

😄

Originally posted by Bardock42
That is incorrect. You have met me. I am a pro choicer. It is not my attitude.

Originally posted by smoker4
WTF are you on about? grade school tactics? How? See the difference is i haven't tried to win by insults, laughable

😄

also, you said you are trying to "win" here. its not about winning, its about discussing the issue in a mature fashion, which you have proven is beyond you.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
out of respect for you, being a woman, i am gonna bite my tongue here.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
out of respect for you, being a woman, i am gonna bite my tongue here.

What are you implying?

She is the moral and intelligent here. Every insult by you would be a compliment.

Originally posted by Shelbert Lemon
Thank you for the respect, not because Im a woman but because it seems you may have been inclined to insult my 'line of thinking'. 😛

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
you insinuated that JM was somewhat of an idiot. thats an insult if i ever heard one.

also, you said you are trying to "win" here. its not about winning, its about discussing the issue in a mature fashion, which you have proven is beyond you.

Not an insult at all. No i didnt say that, i said 'you' were trying to win by insults

Also how it is beyond me? Mature fashion? Again with the insults...

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
it's just that some things are better left unsaid, you know? and trust me, you REALLY dont want to hear what i was going to say. 😂

Also what would be funny about that?

Originally posted by Bardock42
What are you implying?

She is the moral and intelligent here. Every insult by you would be a compliment.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
some of us were raised with manners and good sense. apparently you are not one of them.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, we have something in common then, just that I don't pretend to.