Abortion

Started by Alpha Centauri787 pages
Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
That is what p eople who abort babies always do.They don't think about it just kill the baby.When the baby could be in a better home and like you siad have a better future.Anyway got to go.Talk to you all tonight.jm

Yeah, you can answer my question then.

-AC

Originally posted by ADarksideJedi
That is what p eople who abort babies always do.They don't think about it just kill the baby.When the baby could be in a better home and like you siad have a better future.Anyway got to go.Talk to you all tonight.jm

It could also be in a worse home and have a worse future.

Have you adopted a child?

Anyways, pro-lifers (liars, hypocrites and retards) here is a very good page that helps you to adopt children...I hope being so morally upright as you guys are you will see that it is the best to adopt an older child as youngers have a higher chance of being adopted anyways. Also, maybe you should look for other than white races:

http://foster-child.adoption.com/guide/foster-adoption-ebook.html

The page also gives help if you should want an infant, but you know, it is just so much harder for older children to get adopted, so I linked to adopting from foster care. I respect that you are really going to stand by your beliefs and that you will be part of the solution. You know, before I could never have any respect for pro-lifers, cause they only preach they never do what they say, but you will be the good example that gives me faith again. Thank you.

Oh, also remember you can adopt more than one child. That would be great. The more you can do, right? Thanks a lot. Really, I appreciate your commitment.

I hope especially you RJ and you JM will do that

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Or you just here because I personally give you reason to exist?
Suuuuuuure.....you are the wind beneath my wings, sweetie. now gimmee a kiss.

Let's give you something on topic:

Would you adopt? Yes or no?
Have you ever adopted? Yes or no?
Will you ever adopt? Yes or no?

Those are civil, genuine questions I am asking you, all insults aside, that I would like you to answer, will you? Or will you avoid?

-AC


Would I adopt? If under the right circumstances, Yes, I'd adopt. What are
the right circumstances? You know, fertility problems, problems conceiving, all that shit.

Have I ever adopted? Nope

Will I ever adopt? Isn't this just question one, worded differently?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Do you have a kid? If not; Why not?

Would you adopt? You are more than old enough. 26 years old.

-AC

I wonder.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Would I adopt? If under the right circumstances, Yes, I'd adopt. What are
the right circumstances? You know, fertility problems, problems conceiving, all that shit.

Forced to keep her kid, is one.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Have I ever adopted? Nope

Why?

-AC

I am just happy I am not a girl so i dont have 2 deal with this

I am just happy that I am not into girls (ne more) so i dont have 2 deal with this

Abortion is not nor will never be an issue for me, which is why my opinion on it should make no difference for a person (man or woman) who really does have to deal with this one day.

For those of you men and women who DO have to deal with this in your life, I am so sorry....must suck big time.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
What it "means" to be human is different than actually, definitively being a human being.

-AC

The definition of a human being is different than the definition of a human being?

Say what?

Originally posted by Goddess Kali
I am just happy I am not a girl so i dont have 2 deal with this

I am just happy that I am not into girls (ne more) so i dont have 2 deal with this

Abortion is not nor will never be an issue for me, which is why my opinion on it should make no difference for a person (man or woman) who really does have to deal with this one day.

For those of you men and women who DO have to deal with this in your life, I am so sorry....must suck big time.

Glad to see you're homosexual now and not bisexual, as I never believed you when you used to say you were [bisexual]... but, that was also an irrelevant post so I'll leave the thread with:

"Who runs Bartertown!?"

Originally posted by Ytse
The definition of a human being is different than the definition of a human being?

Say what?

What it "means" to be human to some, i.e; those things that define our species, do not make something an ACTUAL human.

To some; what it means to be human is being able to appreciate a sun rise and stuff like that. That stuff is as subjective as the meaning of life.

What IS and ISN'T a human technically, isn't subjective, and is proveable.

Unless I've misinterpreted you, in which case I apologise.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
What IS and ISN'T a human technically, isn't subjective, and is proveable.

But who gets to define the technical parameters of humanity?

Originally posted by Ytse
But who gets to define the technical parameters of humanity?

As I said to you before, what do you mean by humanity? The literal point in which something becomes a human? Or the essense of our species that makes us different to any other?

It's just a floating organism being kept alive by an ACTUAL human. Effectively a parasite.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
As I said to you before, what do you mean by humanity? The literal point in which something becomes a human? Or the essense of our species that makes us different to any other?

It's just a floating organism being kept alive by an ACTUAL human. Effectively a parasite.

-AC

So babies are parasites now? Just gets better and better...

Oh, and hi again. Pleasant conversation always...

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
As I said to you before, what do you mean by humanity? The literal point in which something becomes a human? Or the essense of our species that makes us different to any other?

How're they all not intertwined and part of the same thing?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
As I said to you before, what do you mean by humanity? The literal point in which something becomes a human? Or the essense of our species that makes us different to any other?

It's just a floating organism being kept alive by an ACTUAL human. Effectively a parasite.

-AC


Well, not it's not quite a parasite, that implies it's a predator.

It's more of an commensalistic relationship than parasitic.

But it's really neither, because it isn't an organism.

Symbiote.

Originally posted by The Black Ghost
Symbiote.

Not really. In a symbiotic relationship each has to give something to the other. The fetus gives nothing to the mother.

Originally posted by The Black Ghost
So babies are parasites now? Just gets better and better...

Oh, and hi again. Pleasant conversation always...

You owe me a debate, since you didn't live up to your own promise last time. Snap, snap, chop, chop. Get to it, skippy.

Originally posted by Ytse
How're they all not intertwined and part of the same thing?

Because a foetus, or more importantly, cells, are not human. They are an entirely different kind of organism.

A foetus lacks anything to attribute humanity to it besides that of "It was created by a human.", which essentially means nothing.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
As I said to you before, what do you mean by humanity? The literal point in which something becomes a human? Or the essense of our species that makes us different to any other?

It's just a floating organism being kept alive by an ACTUAL human. Effectively a parasite.

-AC

What makes a human? Our DNA? Or?

Because, a human embryo is human, it's not a chicken (or other) embryo is it?

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

Because a foetus, or more importantly, cells, are not human. They are an entirely different kind of organism.

A foetus lacks anything to attribute humanity to it besides that of "It was created by a human.", which essentially means nothing.

-AC


A fetus starts at 8 weeks.. at 8 weeks, it is clearly human; has all the structure of a birthed human.

Originally posted by Robtard
What makes a human? Our DNA? Or?

Because, a human embryo is human, it's not a chicken (or other) embryo is it?

It's human in the sense that it was created by one. It's not a human in the sense you or I are humans, therefore it does not deserve the same rights.

Either way, cells are not humans, are they?

Originally posted by Robtard
A fetus starts at 8 weeks.. at 8 weeks, it is clearly human; has all the structure of a birthed human.

At that point I still believe the woman has the right to do as she wishes, but what of people who claim anything before that, including conception, is human?

That's what you're seeing in this thread, and that's wrong isn't it?

I'm more interested in showing what human ISN'T, because that's where the debate lies.

-AC

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
A foetus lacks anything to attribute humanity to it besides that of "It was created by a human.", which essentially means nothing.

So you're claiming that in human development when you're a fetus you're a non-human? Yes? So, is a rat fetus a non-rat? Or is a cow fetus a non-cow?