Originally posted by Bardock42
The woman that has to carry the cells.
And not the husband's responisbility who put them there in the first place? Unless in rape, it takes 2 willingly to create a child (even if by accident), therefore there is equal responsibility, no matter that the guy is not carrying the cells. She should have been more careful if its really such a big deal to her. 😕 The guy at least has a say.
Originally posted by The Black Ghost
And not the husband's responisbility who put them there in the first place? Unless in rape, it takes 2 willingly to create a child (even if by accident), therefore there is equal responsibility, no matter that the guy is not carrying the cells. She should have been more careful if its really such a big deal to her. 😕 The guy at least has a say.
Nope. Not the husband. He doesn't have the inconvenience.
Except in one case, when he doesn't want it and she does. We need a solution for that, in all other cases no. Nope.
Originally posted by Shelbert Lemon
Even when you taken precautions...pregnancy can occur.
Then be prepared for it . Deal with it like a responsible person dont just kill it or hand the kid off to someone else.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Nope. Not the husband. He doesn't have the inconvenience.Except in one case, when he doesn't want it and she does. We need a solution for that, in all other cases no. Nope.
Except in cases where he doesnt want it and she does? Stick with one way or the other, please.
If she wants it, and he doesnt, then its his fault too so he has to put in his money for the kid.
Originally posted by The Black Ghost
Then be prepared for it . Deal with it like a responsible person dont just kill it or hand the kid off to someone else.Except in cases where he doesnt want it and she does? Stick with one way or the other, please.
If she wants it, and he doesnt, then its his fault too so he has to put in his money for the kid.
You just proved my point, you Taiwanese idiot.
That is the case where he also has an unwilling inconvenience, so maybe he shouldn't have to pay in such a case.
Originally posted by Bardock42
You just proved my point, you Taiwanese idiot.That is the case where he also has an unwilling inconvenience, so maybe he shouldn't have to pay in such a case.
No, Im saying he SHOULD have to pay for it. I dont know what you're reading.
And the Taiwanese arent idiots -the fact that they are geographically located close to China probably means they are uber-intelligent. Plotting for future takeover of their big mean brother hopefully.
Originally posted by The Black Ghost
No, Im saying he SHOULD have to pay for it. I dont know what you're reading.And the Taiwanese arent idiots -the fact that they are geographically located close to China probably means they are uber-intelligent. Plotting for future takeover of their big mean brother hopefully.
I know. I am saying he shouldn't in that case, because the woman has a way out, why shouldn't the man?
I PMed you about the Taiwan part.
Originally posted by Bardock42
I know. I am saying he shouldn't in that case, because the woman has a way out, why shouldn't the man?I PMed you about the Taiwan part.
Neither should have a way out, they dont need a way out if you just plan ahead. Things happen, yes, but theres always family to help you out monetarily if you're in college or something or unable to care for a kid.
I like the vid! 😆
Originally posted by The Black Ghost
Neither should have a way out, they dont need a way out if you just plan ahead. Things happen, yes, but theres always family to help you out monetarily if you're in college or something or unable to care for a kid.I like the vid! 😆
Why shouldn't they? They were unlucky or stupid, why can't they still have a good live? Why do they have to be punished? And always family to help you out? What? Are you talking only about spoilt wasps? In fact that's probably hardly the group of people that get abortions.
And it is funny.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Why do they have to be punished?
They don't. That's why they can get abortions.
Originally posted by Bardock42
And always family to help you out? What? Are you talking only about spoilt wasps? In fact that's probably hardly the group of people that get abortions.
I wouldn't say they aren't a big portion. In fact, I'm willing to bet that often times it's the girl's father that's paying for the procedure.
Originally posted by Devil King
They don't. That's why they can get abortions.I wouldn't say they aren't a big portion. In fact, I'm willing to bet that often times it's the girl's father that's paying for the procedure.
It was a rhetorical question, but thank you.
Well, maybe, but I mean if they can't be killed legally at least their offspring should, right?
Originally posted by Bardock42
[B]Why shouldn't they? They were unlucky or stupid, why can't they still have a good live? Why do they have to be punished? And always family to help you out? What? Are you talking only about spoilt wasps? In fact that's probably hardly the group of people that get abortions.
B]
How do they know its going to ruin their lives? Its sort of assumed, because of monetary issues and time, but honestly, you can live with it.
Its not punishment. Its nature. Sex=babies. A lot of times unplanned pregnancies come from people who think they can get away with it without contraceptives, which is stupid.
And sadly I bet its a lot of those spoilt wasps that get the abortions because they CAN...Big money people are as bad as anyone else. I live by chicago, and the drug trade in our town is the highest around, even though it is generally the most well off. I cant get figures for where I live on abortion, but Id assume if someone here gets pregnant and they dont want to, MR daddy lawyer is going to give up the dough for it.
Originally posted by The Black GhostI already tried this tact, Ghost....they aint buying it.
And not the husband's responisbility who put them there in the first place? Unless in rape, it takes 2 willingly to create a child (even if by accident), therefore there is equal responsibility, no matter that the guy is not carrying the cells. She should have been more careful if its really such a big deal to her. 😕 The guy at least has a say.
[QUOTE=]Originally posted by The Black Ghost
How do they know its going to ruin their lives? Its sort of assumed, because of monetary issues and time, but honestly, you can live with it.[/QUOTE]
That is a risk that they have to take. They could be better off or worse either way, no one knows. It is a risk and it is one they have to take because they are the ones that are affected by it. If they are miserable because you and others forced them to havethe baby it is your fault, you are responsible for the misery of a human being, if they chose to abort it and are miserable it is their choice, and they have to take the consequences.
[QUOTE=]Originally posted by The Black Ghost
Its not punishment. Its nature. Sex=babies. A lot of times unplanned pregnancies come from people who think they can get away with it without contraceptives, which is stupid.
No, forcing them is punishment. You take the possibility of abortion away, to punish them for having sex and getting pregnant. Sex is also more than babies, it is fun. And contraceptives are not 100%, what if they failed?
And sadly I bet its a lot of those spoilt wasps that get the abortions because they CAN...Big money people are as bad as anyone else. I live by chicago, and the drug trade in our town is the highest around, even though it is generally the most well off. I cant get figures for where I live on abortion, but Id assume if someone here gets pregnant and they dont want to, MR daddy lawyer is going to give up the dough for it. [/QUOTE]
I don't see the sadly. I still don't think it is, but even if it is, it doesn't really matter. In a free country that is.
Also, I am for the legalization of all drugs, so....drug problem arguments are not .... very....viable...when talking to me.
Originally posted by The Black Ghost
Neither should have a way out, they dont need a way out if you just plan ahead. Things happen, yes, but theres always family to help you out monetarily if you're in college or something or unable to care for a kid.I like the vid! 😆
Surprisingly, most people don't have a bank account under the label "Saved for unplanned pregnancy."
And this is science. Contraception = no babies. Sometimes it doesn't work. And we have a way to fix that.
And you sound very (judge)mental, though you have no right to be, and you'll never be in a woman's shoes to make such a decision. You sound like you think women think of abortion as of going out shopping. You'll never know what they go through.
Originally posted by Bardock42
[QUOTE=]Originally posted by The Black Ghost
[B]How do they know its going to ruin their lives? Its sort of assumed, because of monetary issues and time, but honestly, you can live with it.
That is a risk that they have to take. They could be better off or worse either way, no one knows. It is a risk and it is one they have to take because they are the ones that are affected by it. If they are miserable because you and others forced them to havethe baby it is your fault, you are responsible for the misery of a human being, if they chose to abort it and are miserable it is their choice, and they have to take the consequences.
[QUOTE=]Originally posted by The Black Ghost
Its not punishment. Its nature. Sex=babies. A lot of times unplanned pregnancies come from people who think they can get away with it without contraceptives, which is stupid.
No, forcing them is punishment. You take the possibility of abortion away, to punish them for having sex and getting pregnant. Sex is also more than babies, it is fun. And contraceptives are not 100%, what if they failed?
And sadly I bet its a lot of those spoilt wasps that get the abortions because they CAN...Big money people are as bad as anyone else. I live by chicago, and the drug trade in our town is the highest around, even though it is generally the most well off. I cant get figures for where I live on abortion, but Id assume if someone here gets pregnant and they dont want to, MR daddy lawyer is going to give up the dough for it. [/QUOTE]
I don't see the sadly. I still don't think it is, but even if it is, it doesn't really matter. In a free country that is.
Also, I am for the legalization of all drugs, so....drug problem arguments are not .... very....viable...when talking to me. [/B][/QUOTE] Helll, you are high all the time anyway. I know how you Germans do it.