Abortion

Uh-huh.

A republic is a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them, according to dictionary.com

Here is the definition of democracy:

Government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.

The burden of proof is on you to show that those two expressly conflict, especially given the fact that most nation-states call themselves 'democratic republics'.

Methinks you should go back to civics class.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
A group of cells > POTENTIALLY into a fetus > POTENTIALLY into a human being.

It goes like that.

But you might as well say:

Sperm > POTENTIALLY a group of cells > POTENTIALLY into a fetus > POTENTIALLY into a human being.

-AC

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
All that a republic form of government means, is that it's not fronted by a monarchy. It doesn't concern the elective process, apart from the fact that again, it is not fronted by the monarchy. The very fact that it's a republic makes it a democracy.

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
so you threw sperm in there. Unless the sperm enters the ovum, it doesn't really count. It takes two to tango. Sperm by itself doesn't quite cut it. It's like a cheeseburger with no meat.

You're trying to apply a limit ex post facto now that he has made a point.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
No, it means the people are represented by officials that they elect, and that they pass laws and make descions for them along with A state of State. Furthermore there are individual rights Vs. the Right of the Majority, Laws are not decided by a vote of the masses, Property is not state owned, and power is divided between the representives and figure head.

Your poor mother......

RogueJedi: I'd just like to get to the meat of your argument. Are you supposing that a mother's right to adopt is superseded by the supposed rights of a fetus? Not only are you using an organism whose legal rights are nebulous, but you've just been going in circles. Get to the point already. Is that what you're suggesting?

Originally posted by Ymir
Uh-huh.

A republic is a state in which the supreme power rests in the body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by representatives chosen directly or indirectly by them, according to dictionary.com

Here is the definition of democracy:

Government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system.

The burden of proof is on you to show that those two expressly conflict, especially given the fact that most nation-states call themselves 'democratic republics'.

-Citizens are directly involved in the decsion making in a Democracy Vs A Republic where representatives are involved in the descion making not the people

-Figure head is elected by the Electoral College not the Popular Vote

-Property is not usually owned by the State in A Republic

I mean I could go on, So, how do they not conflict?

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Your poor mother......

That's funny coming from someone who was refuted by their own source hysterical

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
potential means a helluva lot more than you are realizing. just because it is a ball of cells that is not aware doesn't mean it is OK to abort it.

nice opinion. mine is that it does
can you believe that? it actually isnt fact just because you said so

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
At what point in Fetal development would you say that the ball of cells becomes more than just a ball of cells?

when the brain functions and the fetus gains even a primitive concience IMHFO

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
and comparing a sleeping person to a comatose patient is a piss poor comparison.

no it isnt. can you believe that? it actually isnt piss poor just because you said so

Originally posted by StyleTime
Yes, but you were arguing potentialities comrade.

You're trying to apply a limit ex post facto now that he has made a point.

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
That's funny coming from someone who was refuted by their own source hysterical

No, I wasn't you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. The name alone of the source should tell you something - Basic Readings in U.S Democracy.

A republic is merely a representative democracy. Both concepts reside in different planes of sociology. A democracy would be an ideology, and not really specifying a system of government. A direct democracy, the kind you just mentioned would be Athens where everyone held office at one time or another. A Republic is still a democracy, albeit one where not everyone has to serve in office.

I'll repeat myself. Go to a civics class.

Originally posted by Ymir
Go to a civics class.

ASAP.

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
No, I wasn't you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. The name alone of the source should tell you something - Basic Readings in U.S Democracy.

We do not operate like a Democracy as I already proved, some article on the internet falls apart in the face of common sense. If were a Democracy, why do we operate like a Republic?

Originally posted by Schecter
nice opinion. mine is that it does
can you believe that? it actually isnt fact just because you said so

when the brain functions and the fetus gains even a primitive concience IMHFO

no it isnt. can you believe that? it actually isnt piss poor just because you said so

Because a democracy is an ideology. Does the power not belong to the people in a republic?

Here, I'll make it easier for you.

A republic is a representative democracy.

There. Done.

Originally posted by Ymir
A republic is merely a representative democracy.

No, it is not, because in a Represnetative Democracy all decisions are reach on the vote of the majority.

Originally posted by Ymir

Both concepts reside in different planes of sociology. A democracy would be an ideology, and not really specifying a system of government. A direct democracy, the kind you just mentioned would be Athens where [B]everyone held office at one time or another. A Republic is still a democracy, albeit one where not everyone has to serve in office.

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Originally posted by Ymir
Because a democracy is an ideology. Does the power not belong to the people in a republic?

Originally posted by Rogue Jedi

You really think a fetus says to itself "mmmm...nice and cuddly in here."?

hmmm did i say that? no, i didnt. isnt that weird?

Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar

We do not operate like a Democracy as I already proved, some article on the internet falls apart in the face of common sense. If were a Democracy, why do we operate like a Republic?

You need to educate yourself. You saying how can we be a democracy when when we operate like a republic? Is idiotic. You act like a republic because the republic is democratically operated. If the country is not headed by a monarchy, it's a republic. A republic is a system of government, while a democracy is a way of governing.