Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
That's Bullshit, the constitution does not say that there vote is absolutely dictated by the Popular Vote. Not to mention that article says they are supposed to vote, there is no law what so ever that will punish them if they do not follow said process.Link your definitions, because I know you twisted them.
www.enchantedlearning.com/election/glossary.shtml
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
The Electoral College. The national presidential election actually consists of a separate election in each of the 50 states and the District of Columbia; in these 51 elections, the voters are really voting for "electors" pledged to one of the tickets. These electors make up the "Electoral College." (In most cases, the names of the electors aren't written on the ballot; instead the ballot lets voters choose among "Electors for" each of the tickets, naming the presidential and vice-presidential candidates each slate of electors is pledged to.)Each state has the same number of electors as it has senators and representatives (there are two senators from each state, but the number of representatives depends on the state population in the most recent census). The District of Columbia, although it isn't a state, also participates in presidential elections -- it currently has three electors.
The People in Each State Vote for Electors in the Electoral College. In most of the states, and also in the District of Columbia, the election is winner-take-all; whichever ticket receives the most votes in that state (or in D.C.) gets all the electors. (The only exceptions are Maine and Nebraska. In these states, just two of the electors are chosen in a winner-take-all fashion from the entire state. The remaining electors are determined by the winner in each congressional district, with each district voting for one elector.)
The Electoral College Votes for the President. The Electoral College then votes for President and for Vice-President, with each elector casting one vote; these votes are called electoral votes. Each elector is pledged to vote for particular candidates for President and Vice-President. In most elections, all the electors vote in accordance with the pledge they made; it is not clear what would happen in the unlikely event that a large number of electors violated their pledge and voted differently.
Normally, one of the candidates for President receives a majority (more than half) of the electoral votes; that person is elected President. That candidate's vice-presidential running mate will then also receive a majority of electoral votes (for Vice-President), and that person is elected Vice-President.
If There's No Electoral College Winner, the House of Representatives Chooses the President. In the rare event that no presidential candidate receives a majority of the electoral votes, then the President is chosen instead by the House of Representatives, from the top three presidential vote-getters in the Electoral College; each state delegation in Congress casts one vote. (The Vice-President would be chosen from the top two vice-presidential vote-getters by the Senate.)
Now, show me where it says that the majority vote decides who is elected by law?
This is your source BTW:
http://www.enchantedlearning.com/election/howpresiselected.shtml
Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Those links are valid and so are the definitions. Who 'pwned' who now? Maybe you should spend some time learning some real words instead of Internet jibber jabber.
Yeah, And I just used your source against you, again.
God, your addorable, especially seeing you squirm. This the second time I've used your source aginst you.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
Now, show me where it says that the majority vote decides who is elected by law?This is your source BTW:
http://www.enchantedlearning.com/election/howpresiselected.shtml
'The Electoral College Votes for the President. The Electoral College then votes for President and for Vice-President, with each elector casting one vote; these votes are called electoral votes. Each elector is pledged to vote for particular candidates for President and Vice-President. In most elections, all the electors vote in accordance with the pledge they made; it is not clear what would happen in the unlikely event that a large number of electors violated their pledge and voted differently.
Normally, one of the candidates for President receives a majority (more than half) of the electoral votes; that person is elected President. That candidate's vice-presidential running mate will then also receive a majority of electoral votes (for Vice-President), and that person is elected Vice-President.'
Originally posted by chillmeistergen
'The Electoral College Votes for the President. The Electoral College then votes for President and for Vice-President, with each elector casting one vote; these votes are called electoral votes. Each elector is pledged to vote for particular candidates for President and Vice-President. In most elections, all the electors vote in accordance with the pledge they made; it is not clear what would happen in the unlikely event that a large number of electors violated their pledge and voted differently.Normally, one of the candidates for President receives a majority (more than half) of the electoral votes; that person is elected President. That candidate's vice-presidential running mate will then also receive a majority of electoral votes (for Vice-President), and that person is elected Vice-President.'
Again, with your own source.
Here are some interseting stats. Not trying to prove anything, just thought it was relative to the topic.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/clinic/wars/faqs.html
Originally posted by chillmeistergen
The majority vote would still count, that refers to what would happen to the people in general
With that kinda of logic I could argue that a hostage held at gun point has power over the assailant because he can plead for his life.
I would definitely use the New Republic. Yoda for the win.
Anyhow, Ashtar, my guess is that you've either failed a civics class, or have never taken one. Personally, I'm frustrated that you've been unwilling to check a source, and have ignored the times when I have corrected you, especially when you said that the electoral college elects all of our officials. The electoral college, by the way, is bound by the majority in their own states. For example, if the majority of the popular vote in California goes to candidate A, then candidate A is elected. The United States does not have a national electoral college, which is why Al Gore lost. Get over it.
I digress. I won't argue with you anymore, because you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink, to use the old adage.
Anyhow, back to the topic at hand.
Anyone have any interesting figures, etc. to add?
Originally posted by YmirAnyhow, Ashtar, my guess is that you've either failed a civics class, or have never taken one. Personally, I'm frustrated that you've been unwilling to check a source, and have ignored the times when I have corrected you, especially when you said that the electoral college elects all of our officials.
Bottomline is that in a Democracy all power is given to the majority. Nowhwere have you shown that people of a Republic are involved in the descion making to the same degree as in a Democracy. Futhermore, You failed to even address my point about the Electoral College who elect the officials. Bottomline is Electoral College =/= To the Majority, therefore the same goes for a Democracy =/= Republic. Go back to social studies class and this time pay attention.
Originally posted by Rogue Jedi
Here are some interseting stats. Not trying to prove anything, just thought it was relative to the topic.http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/clinic/wars/faqs.html
"43 percent of women having abortions are Protestant; 27 percent are Catholic."
someone go rub that in JIA's face.
Originally posted by Emperor Ashtar
That's a blantant lie considering I've used your won source in my arguement and quoted accordingly.Bottomline is that in a Democracy all power is given to the majority. Nowhwere have you shown that people of a Republic are involved in the descion making to the same degree as in a Democracy. Futhermore, You failed to even address my point about the Electoral College who elect the officials. Bottomline is Electoral College =/= To the Majority, therefore the same goes for a Democracy =/= Republic. Go back to social studies class and this time pay attention.
*Sighs*
It's funny, you gave me a Wikpedia article that doesn't even explain or cite examples of a "Republican Democracy".
And in this sense the word "democracy" is often used too lightly and erroneously to mean "republic."
Your own source, you fail.
I'm going to sleep, I'm not wasting anymore time on you clowns. Take your own advice, go back to a Civic's Class.