Abortion

Yes alright Mr. John Major, we get it. You think that without rules and boundaries, on one thing; that society will become morally dissolute and rebellious.

It's bollocks of course, but thanks for sharing it with us.

The Black Ghost also believes the world will end cos of abortion, you can't take him seriously.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
The only relevant debate is about where the line is.

Which is essentially what I said.

If a line is to be placed, it needs to be a reasonable one and one free of personal agenda or especially religion.

If you don't know where the line should be fairly placed, don't place it anywhere.

-AC

To those people who have no intention of making a child when having sex, they should take the proper precautions. Not have careless sex and fall back on the idea of getting an abortion if they do get pregnant.

Originally posted by backdoorman
Why shouldn't they?

Backdoorman, I think you're in the clear as far as getting someone pregnant goes.

Originally posted by botankus
Backdoorman, I think you're in the clear as far as getting someone pregnant goes.

*******.

He is? I was just talking about buttf***ing.

Originally posted by Passione
That made no sense. You cant bully people into having the same beliefs

Is name calling really needed here?

Originally posted by Kelly_Bean
Xyz, I hope you know that that was really inconsiderate of you to say, calling someone stupid because of what they believe/go with.

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
It was a statement addressed to anyone of that belief.

Like this:

It's a bit like morbidly obese chicks saying everyone's beautiful on the inside, really.

Stupid people exist as do stupid beliefs. We have free will and the capacity to advance beyond people around us, some of us don't spend time learning so we can just lump ourselves in with idiots quite frankly.

If I feel you have stupid beliefs, I'll say they are. It's a right I have. Offense can happen without the intent to offend, so unless we've all got to stop saying what's on our minds, I'll call stupid people stupid.

"There's"? You mean "Theirs". Wrong spelling, wrong grammar.

-AC

See, I spelt every word here correctly, I can spel.

...Joke. 😐

As a pro-life libertarian, it disgusts me that so many have the chutzpuh to proclaim themself for less government involvement in our life, when it's ussualy prochoice people who vote liberal.

Thus wanting more government involvement in our lives.

The point of the law is to protect life, involving the government in abortion is no differant then involving government is any other form of murder, or rape, or theft, or any other despicable act.

It's not something that should be tolerated in a civil society.
It's unfourtanate very few people in this country are civil.

The only moral argument a prochoicer can give is the subjective view that a fetus isn't granteed rights because it hasn't been granteed personhood.

What a frightening idea that these nazi equivalents have a right to vote and take part in this country's descision making. How long before i'm not a person, or you're not a person? When people's personhood is put into question, tyranny is unavoiable.

Freedom cannot exsist without life, one has to be alive to excersize thier freedom. When you kill a fetus, you are taking away all of it's liberties, wether or not you find it a person is irrelevant, the point is, it will be a fully functional human being in nine short months. You do not have the authority to take a human life for any sortof reason, you are not God.

Libertarians are suppose to be the party of princaples. Yet I see little defense for the princaple of life.

Libertarians are suppose to be the party of responsibility. Yet someone who chose to have sex, and was fully capable of preventing cum from entering their vagina, is avoiding any sortof responsibility by killing thier child.

There should be no tolerance whatsoever for this barbarism. Abortion should be universaly banned, the fetus have the basic right to the protection and preservation of life, and that if parents put it up for adoption, both must still pay child support.

That's a party of princaples
That's a party of responsibility

What we have right now is a bunchof democratic-capitalists. And that just won't do.

Whirly.

Do I get the first to call it award? 🙂

its either spelljammer, or whirly impersonating spelljammer

Originally posted by Bardock42
Whirly.

Do I get the first to call it award? 🙂

*Gives Bardock a Twinkie*

Originally posted by Captain King
As a pro-life libertarian, it disgusts me that so many have the chutzpuh to proclaim themself for less government involvement in our life, when it's ussualy prochoice people who vote liberal.

Thus wanting [b]more government involvement in our lives.

The point of the law is to protect life, involving the government in abortion is no differant then involving government is any other form of murder, or rape, or theft, or any other despicable act.

It's not something that should be tolerated in a civil society.
It's unfourtanate very few people in this country are civil.

The only moral argument a prochoicer can give is the subjective view that a fetus isn't granteed rights because it hasn't been granteed personhood.

What a frightening idea that these nazi equivalents have a right to vote and take part in this country's descision making. How long before i'm not a person, or you're not a person? When people's personhood is put into question, tyranny is unavoiable.

Freedom cannot exsist without life, one has to be alive to excersize thier freedom. When you kill a fetus, you are taking away all of it's liberties, wether or not you find it a person is irrelevant, the point is, it will be a fully functional human being in nine short months. You do not have the authority to take a human life for any sortof reason, you are not God.

Libertarians are suppose to be the party of princaples. Yet I see little defense for the princaple of life.

Libertarians are suppose to be the party of responsibility. Yet someone who chose to have sex, and was fully capable of preventing cum from entering their vagina, is avoiding any sortof responsibility by killing thier child.

There should be no tolerance whatsoever for this barbarism. Abortion should be universaly banned, the fetus have the basic right to the protection and preservation of life, and that if parents put it up for adoption, both must still pay child support.

That's a party of princaples
That's a party of responsibility

What we have right now is a bunchof democratic-capitalists. And that just won't do. [/B]

I know I'll regret this but let's see.

Pro-life people like using the word "responsibility", they just don't seem to understand it.

If I get pregnant because of failed contraception (to put it in an idiotic way, "God's will"😉, and I get to think: "Hmm, I don't earn enough money, I don't have my own flat, and I'm not mature enough yet, and honestly, I don't wanna be an incubator then give it up for adoption (if that ever happens). I couldn't give my kid what it may need. I think I'm only gonna have a baby if I'm spiritually, mentally, financially etc. ready for it."
I think that's responsible.
What you mean when you say responsibility is punishment. "That'll show ya. That's what you get for not living your life the way I want you to."

Also, I'm not God enough to end a potential life, but I'm God enough to accidentally create one? That puts all God's work into perspective.

Look, i'm just saying the baby had no consent being born, and has no consent dieing. That's just tyranny. Prochoice is pro-fascist.

Someone makes all the rules. They get to decide when personhood begins, they get to decide when someone lives or dies, they get to decide what is and isn't acceptable, theytheytheythey.

**** they!

I don't need they, what have they ever done for me?

They can't even stop themselves from killing thier own kids
Why should they get anything?
They are lucky they are not slaves crawling in the mud sucking my dick.

I have no sympathy for they or thier problems.

Apparently they didn't think pregnancy was all that risky whilest they were having sex, yet all of a sudden "OH MY GOD! WHAT AM I GOING TO DOOOO?!"

Calm down ***** and just put it up for adoption and shutup.

But yeah, I do kindof see it as a punishment, and you know what? I don't care. I'm not the one killing kids. I'm not the one advocating the right to kill kids.

That makes better then anyone who does differantly.

And yes, some people are better then other people, this isn't a communism.

you are an hero

/wrists

Originally posted by Schecter
you are an hero

/wrists

That's why my name is Captain King, i'm a navy officer.

Yet another reason why i'm better then prochoicers. Because I actually work, I don't have time to waste killing babies and being a ****.

Originally posted by Captain King
I don't have time to waste killing babies and being a ****.

yet here you are...not killing babies i presume, but still...

Originally posted by Schecter
yet here you are...not killing babies i presume, but still...

That's right, you don't know, stay in school kid.

Originally posted by Captain King
How do you know i'm not in iraq rightnow on my laptop?

That's right, you don't know, stay in school kid.

call me clairvoyant, but id wager you're a middle aged man in the u.k. who's decided that the therapists dont know shit, so to hell with your meds. bullseye?

Originally posted by Schecter
call me clairvoyant, but id wager you're a middle aged man in the u.k. who's decided that the therapists dont know shit, so to hell with your meds. bullseye?

Here I am, fighting for your protection, (well, maybe not you, i could give a crap about europe..)

and meanwhile, you're being an ass. I must be pretty sane, you do realize everyone in the military has to pass a mental exam right?

Judging by your views and name, you're narcistic and stupid and that's an annoying combo.