That is because one is no longer a fetus once it leaves the womb, but it is still a baby. So to say for the definition of the fetus is "a baby" would be inaccurate because the term in which one is considered a fetus is specifically from the end of the 8th week until birth. So a fetus fits the description of a baby, but a baby doesn't necessarily fit the description of a fetus. I don't know if I explained that right.
Another thing, a fetus is not entirely undeveloped. It is partially developed. Depending on how far along the fetus is, the more you can make out the human characteristics.
Freedom of choice is a lovley ideal....but freedom is dangerous...far too often people make the wrong choices....of course that gets tricky since they only find out later that the decision was wrong
abortion isnt always the wrong decision imo
That is because one is no longer a fetus once it leaves the womb, but it is still a baby. So to say for the definition of the fetus is "a baby" would be inaccurate because the term in which one is considered a fetus is specifically from the end of the 8th week until birth. So a fetus fits the description of a baby, but a baby doesn't necessarily fit the description of a fetus. I don't know if I explained that right.
you did clearly, i understood it.
Another thing, a fetus is not entirely undeveloped. It is partially developed. Depending on how far along the fetus is, the more you can make out the human characteristics.
true, and to be honest if the baby is in say, the third trimester, i wouldn't agree with aborion unless it was neccessary. but i still wouldnt try to take away the right to choose.
I would....just as I would do my utmost to help a friend in need....just as I would try to stop a friend from committing suicide, cheating, stealing, or lying....these things would be wrong...maybe we understand the reasoning behind abortions at times but sometimes people need to be kept from making bad decisions
I would....just as I would do my utmost to help a friend in need....just as I would try to stop a friend from committing suicide, cheating, stealing, or lying....these things would be wrong...maybe we understand the reasoning behind abortions at times but sometimes people need to be kept from making bad decisions
true, but when its the right decision it should be available.
see I would agree but there are times when the "right" thing to do is against the law....it comes down to morals, not legislation. For the sake of human interest keep it outlawed....that won't stop it...only curb it
the thing is, i dont see abortion as immoral, or that its against human interest, i really don't. outlawing it will cause more problems than it will solve.
er....sorry, I was going from the assumption that it currently is outlawed....meaning leave things the way they are..
Who am I ..... no one important enough to impose legislation, but certain general beliefs ie murder are inherently known to be wrong.
The job of laws is to draw lines...tell people they're wrong. ie...rape wrong...hence the laws against it. Ick I'm getting off topic, but bear with me, please. obviously some rapists will not think themselves to be wrong...some murderers will feel they're justified....some liars believe the "ends justifies the means"
Abortion is legal in the US.
Julie...what I meant, is that you don't have the right to tell someone that they are immoral because your beliefs say they are. Afro Cheese nailed what I was saying when he said that morals are highly personal and laws shouldn't be based on them. Some people feel that abortion is immoral, others do not. The best bet is to let people have the choice; those who find it immoral will likely not have abortions, so how is it being legal harming them in any way?
You thought abortions were outlawed or you were saying hypothetically if they were?
And as far as rapists and murderers go, both those crimes have a defined victim. Their victim both suffers from the crime and is aware of the crime. As far as we know a fetus does not suffer from abortion and never even realizes that it takes place.
hum, guess I was wrong about the abortion legality thing....not the first time and won't be the last time I'm wrong. Anyways, then I'd say laws ought to be passed regulating and in most cases banning abortion. ie partial birth...completely totally wrong
Actually, we (advocates of life, prolifers etc) were more worried about the child to be than we were about the poor girls in the situation to have/ not have an abortion.
I understand what you were saying in regards to no one having the right to say you're wrong to anyone...I see where you're coming from, but laws, nations etc do have that right.
I'd love to...okay so I'm lying....stay and chat all night but I have to get to sleep soon so I think I'll pry my eyes away from this forum. It's been great seeing your POVs.
k i just read pretty much this entire forum... what i don't understand is how so many people think it is 'selfish' to have an abortion....in some cases yes i agree it is selfish, but not all cases. Think about what that women has to go through. She has to make a huge decision and think what would be good for the baby...its not just that simple to say "oops i got pregnant oh well ill just have an abortion" Women go through serious depression after abortion... that baby/fetus whatever you want to call it is still a part of that mother its not just a simple thing to do and your also risking your chance of ever getting pregnant again.
I think that if i right now got pregnant i would consider abortion just because im only 17, I dont have the money or education to raise a baby and at this time i really dont think i would be responsible enough. I'm not being selfish, I'm thinking why would i want to bring a child into a world where there own mother is a child herself, can't affored clothes, food, toys and in alot of teen pregnancies....no father.
The job of laws is to draw lines...tell people they're wrong. ie...rape wrong...hence the laws against it. Ick I'm getting off topic, but bear with me, please. obviously some rapists will not think themselves to be wrong...some murderers will feel they're justified....some liars believe the "ends justifies the means"
yes, but those are generally excepted to be wrong by a huge majority, abortion is not.
Originally posted by liltiggasmootay
k i just read pretty much this entire forum... what i don't understand is how so many people think it is 'selfish' to have an abortion....in some cases yes i agree it is selfish, but not all cases. Think about what that women has to go through. She has to make a huge decision and think what would be good for the baby...its not just that simple to say "oops i got pregnant oh well ill just have an abortion" Women go through serious depression after abortion... that baby/fetus whatever you want to call it is still a part of that mother its not just a simple thing to do and your also risking your chance of ever getting pregnant again.
I think that if i right now got pregnant i would consider abortion just because im only 17, I dont have the money or education to raise a baby and at this time i really dont think i would be responsible enough. I'm not being selfish, I'm thinking why would i want to bring a child into a world where there own mother is a child herself, can't affored clothes, food, toys and in alot of teen pregnancies....no father.
there is adoption
True, and generally while its true, maybe, if the child was born they might not grow up in the best enviroment, if it was possible for them to some how offer an answer they would still want life (getting all sci fi here), after all, I am confident from my experiance with the people in the experiance you described "can't affored clothes, food, toys..." that they would choose life, and if one were to say to them "I bet you wished they had aborted you" the last thing they would say would be yes.....
yeah but say your a teen who isnt responsible, still has to go to school so u can actually get a job so u can support a family when your old enough to, cant afford food for yourself nevermind a fetus growing inside of you.....not eating the right food cant be to healthy for the kid. and seriously would you be able to carry your child for 9 months....get completely attached to it, have the baby become attached to you. and just hand it away to some stranger not knowing if it will live a good life or if it will have an abusive father or a negeting mother. Or thinking ok this child could hate me for just giving it away cause u would never know if they understand. Your mind would constantly be on how is he/she? what is she like? is she ok? and your child will always wonder that about its parents too.