Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Saitama runs the marvel hardcore gauntlet
Originally posted by SmurphIrrelevant questions. Let's not derail the thread. I've seen nearly all of Sentrys feats and fights. Let's just say that.
huh, weird - a moment ago you were confident about how DS Sentry fights. and yet, this issue is one of his very few appearances.Have you read any issue that he appears in?
Originally posted by Philosophía
Cool. Cool. Very cool.But my question is -- say, if I'm in control of how Sentry fights, and I just take to the air in the first milisecond, build up speed, and then just slam into a theoretical opponent at [FT]L -- that would be totally within the capabilities of what I could do, no?
Say, I wouldn't be obsessed to do it within 0.5 km, like Sentry is.
The question then becomes, how tall is the battlefield?
Superman can't just fly in space and go sun dip. That's leaving the battlefield.
How high can you go before it is understood not the battlefield anymore?
Originally posted by SmurphI don't think you are but I haven't been tracking your posts here because it seems you're addressing a poster I've currently chosen not to address.
We haven't directly clashed in this thread so I don't know if I'm a part of the "posters" that you refer to but either way, I think I agree with the thrust of your point here.
Originally posted by SmurphMy thoughts are Wolverine claw-blitzing human Yakuza thugs has no business being compared to Platinum Sperm walk-blitzing Flashy Flash and Monsterized Garou.
So in that spirit, genuinely asking:Thoughts?
Carver said the former would (clearly, in his opinion) be a high end feat for herald/trans tiers. I'm not asking you to defend that stance, but I think the argument is relevant. Like, either manga is comparable or it isn't. And if it is, then I think Pam is right.
Particularly not right after Monsterized Garou blitzed Evil Natural Water within half a second just before this.
I don't know if this helps or hinders your separate conversation but if I further elaborate, I'll probably get reported for trolling a poster I currently have on ignore.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Not my first rodeo. But that separate conversation has nothing to do with me. And if you bear down on what I posted, that separate conversation has little to do with my posts.
Actually, agreed. Although, nowhere did I say it was sillier or whatever. All I said was that if manga fans wished to come onto a comic Vs forum, and use comic characters, then manga should have the same scrutiny.If I posted scans of Lobo fighting as tornado, for example, and said based on that, he was faster than Hulk - that would be laughed at, and rightly so.
As for quantifying the afterimages, I didn't even try to, because if you read my posts, I said it was impossible to quantify. H1 knows this too, hence why you see him silent on the matter.
And btw, the reason for the speed focus? It's because Carv and h1 have been focussing on it. I know you don't log in much these days, but this ain't your first rodeo.
But I feel no need to push further.
Originally posted by ODGIt's certainly a more complete answer than I'm getting in that separate conversation, which is much appreciated.
I don't think you are but I haven't been tracking your posts here because it seems you're addressing a poster I've currently chosen not to address. My thoughts are Wolverine claw-blitzing human Yakuza thugs has no business being compared to Platinum Sperm walk-blitzing Flashy Flash and Monsterized Garou.Particularly not right after Monsterized Garou blitzed Evil Natural Water within half a second just before this.
I don't know if this helps or hinders your separate conversation but if I further elaborate, I'll probably get reported for trolling a poster I currently have on ignore.
Seriously though, Carver, you emphasized that it would take a comic book high herald or trans tier to blitz so fast that the victim experiences the blitz after the blitzer has already blitzed.
That was your criteria:
Originally posted by carver9
Got a question for Smurph and Saint. This is one of the slower peeps compared to Saitama and Garou (much slower). Be honest. Can you see Sentry blitzing past 2 people, punching them but his punches register AFTER the fact. He is already pass his opponents and his attacks/punches are still going on while he is on the other side of them talking. This would be a high end ft for Heralds/trans tiers but share your thoughts...
You asked for my thoughts. My thoughts are "here's a picture of Wolverine doing that too"
You might say "but Wolverine is still in motion! Platinum Sperm was even faster"
To which I would say:
a) talking is a free action
b) Wolverine is a low meta
c) ergo, art is ambiguous
I accept that Platinum Sperm is faster than Wolverine by a massive margin. I am just pointing out that your proof of that fact is, in fact, not proof.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Saitama runs the marvel hardcore gauntlet
Originally posted by h1a8The question is relevant.
Irrelevant questions. Let's not derail the thread. I've seen nearly all of Sentrys feats and fights. Let's just say that.
You have spent 20ish pages saying you know how Death Seed Sentry fights, and you know what his best feats are, and based off those, you can objectively calculate his upper limits.
And now you are saying that you have never read any of Death Seed Sentry's appearances?
There are maybe a half dozen of them. You could have flipped through them in twenty minutes.
Originally posted by ODG
Not my first rodeo. But that separate conversation has nothing to do with me. And if you bear down on what I posted, that separate conversation has little to do with my posts.But I feel no need to push further.
Fair enough. My rodeo comment, btw, was merely to say that you know about those two posters, you know what they're like, having a little dig at them from time to time is fun - didn't mean for it to sound too combative.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Saitama runs the marvel hardcore gauntlet
Originally posted by Smurph
The question is relevant.You have spent 20ish pages saying you know how Death Seed Sentry fights, and you know what his best feats are, and based off those, you can objectively calculate his upper limits.
And now you are saying that you have never read any of Death Seed Sentry's appearances?
There are maybe a half dozen of them. You could have flipped through them in twenty minutes.
If I've seen all his feats and his fights then I have every right to say how he usually fights.
You are derailing the thread. If I'm wrong on anything then you can just post scans proving me wrong. No need to discuss irrelevant things
Originally posted by h1a8What's the minimum space I [as Sentry] would need to spin in order to achieve [FT]L to bullrush with the pesky drag?
The question then becomes, how tall is the battlefield?
Superman can't just fly in space and go sun dip. That's leaving the battlefield.
How high can you go before it is understood not the battlefield anymore?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Saitama runs the marvel hardcore gauntlet
Originally posted by Smurph
And now you are saying that you have never read any of Death Seed Sentry's appearances?
Why act all surprised?
That's been h1's whole m.o. since 2005.
He does the exact same thing in other threads and Movie Versus. It's not a secret, it's "basic knowledge", as our rules would say.