Saitama runs the marvel hardcore gauntlet

Started by StiltmanFTW43 pages

No, we're all trapped here with h1.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
No, we're all trapped here with h1.
h1, Stilt is making a reference to a particular comic book. It's a pretty good story, might be a good place to start if you're just getting into comics.

Let me know if you need the issue number.

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Originally posted by Smurph
huh, weird - a moment ago you were confident about how DS Sentry fights. and yet, this issue is one of his very few appearances.

Have you read any issue that he appears in?

Irrelevant questions. Let's not derail the thread. I've seen nearly all of Sentrys feats and fights. Let's just say that.

Originally posted by Philosophía
Cool. Cool. Very cool.

But my question is -- say, if I'm in control of how Sentry fights, and I just take to the air in the first milisecond, build up speed, and then just slam into a theoretical opponent at [FT]L -- that would be totally within the capabilities of what I could do, no?

Say, I wouldn't be obsessed to do it within 0.5 km, like Sentry is.

The question then becomes, how tall is the battlefield?
Superman can't just fly in space and go sun dip. That's leaving the battlefield.
How high can you go before it is understood not the battlefield anymore?

Originally posted by Smurph
We haven't directly clashed in this thread so I don't know if I'm a part of the "posters" that you refer to but either way, I think I agree with the thrust of your point here.
I don't think you are but I haven't been tracking your posts here because it seems you're addressing a poster I've currently chosen not to address.
Originally posted by Smurph
So in that spirit, genuinely asking:

Thoughts?

Carver said the former would (clearly, in his opinion) be a high end feat for herald/trans tiers. I'm not asking you to defend that stance, but I think the argument is relevant. Like, either manga is comparable or it isn't. And if it is, then I think Pam is right.

My thoughts are Wolverine claw-blitzing human Yakuza thugs has no business being compared to Platinum Sperm walk-blitzing Flashy Flash and Monsterized Garou.

Particularly not right after Monsterized Garou blitzed Evil Natural Water within half a second just before this.

I don't know if this helps or hinders your separate conversation but if I further elaborate, I'll probably get reported for trolling a poster I currently have on ignore.

Smurph, why do you think the two blitz are identical? Please explain...

Originally posted by Smurph

Pam from The Office says these are the same picture

Or even similar.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Actually, agreed. Although, nowhere did I say it was sillier or whatever. All I said was that if manga fans wished to come onto a comic Vs forum, and use comic characters, then manga should have the same scrutiny.

If I posted scans of Lobo fighting as tornado, for example, and said based on that, he was faster than Hulk - that would be laughed at, and rightly so.

As for quantifying the afterimages, I didn't even try to, because if you read my posts, I said it was impossible to quantify. H1 knows this too, hence why you see him silent on the matter.

And btw, the reason for the speed focus? It's because Carv and h1 have been focussing on it. I know you don't log in much these days, but this ain't your first rodeo.

Not my first rodeo. But that separate conversation has nothing to do with me. And if you bear down on what I posted, that separate conversation has little to do with my posts.

But I feel no need to push further.

Originally posted by ODG
I don't think you are but I haven't been tracking your posts here because it seems you're addressing a poster I've currently chosen not to address. My thoughts are Wolverine claw-blitzing human Yakuza thugs has no business being compared to Platinum Sperm walk-blitzing Flashy Flash and Monsterized Garou.

Particularly not right after Monsterized Garou blitzed Evil Natural Water within half a second just before this.

I don't know if this helps or hinders your separate conversation but if I further elaborate, I'll probably get reported for trolling a poster I currently have on ignore.

It's certainly a more complete answer than I'm getting in that separate conversation, which is much appreciated.

Originally posted by carver9
Smurph, why do you think the two blitz are identical? Please explain...

Or even similar.

I don't actually think they're identical.

One features Wolverine and the other is drawn in black and white.

😂

Originally posted by Smurph
I don't actually think they're identical.

One features Wolverine and the other is drawn in black and white.

Lmao... you knew what I meant, Smurph. Can you please explain why the speed showing between the 2 scans are similar?

Seriously though, Carver, you emphasized that it would take a comic book high herald or trans tier to blitz so fast that the victim experiences the blitz after the blitzer has already blitzed.

That was your criteria:

Originally posted by carver9
Got a question for Smurph and Saint. This is one of the slower peeps compared to Saitama and Garou (much slower). Be honest. Can you see Sentry blitzing past 2 people, punching them but his punches register AFTER the fact. He is already pass his opponents and his attacks/punches are still going on while he is on the other side of them talking. This would be a high end ft for Heralds/trans tiers but share your thoughts...

https://ibb.co/LQGTYd6
https://ibb.co/CP7zdTJ

You asked for my thoughts. My thoughts are "here's a picture of Wolverine doing that too"

You might say "but Wolverine is still in motion! Platinum Sperm was even faster"

To which I would say:
a) talking is a free action
b) Wolverine is a low meta
c) ergo, art is ambiguous

I accept that Platinum Sperm is faster than Wolverine by a massive margin. I am just pointing out that your proof of that fact is, in fact, not proof.

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Originally posted by h1a8
Irrelevant questions. Let's not derail the thread. I've seen nearly all of Sentrys feats and fights. Let's just say that.
The question is relevant.

You have spent 20ish pages saying you know how Death Seed Sentry fights, and you know what his best feats are, and based off those, you can objectively calculate his upper limits.

And now you are saying that you have never read any of Death Seed Sentry's appearances?

There are maybe a half dozen of them. You could have flipped through them in twenty minutes.

Originally posted by ODG
Not my first rodeo. But that separate conversation has nothing to do with me. And if you bear down on what I posted, that separate conversation has little to do with my posts.

But I feel no need to push further.

Fair enough. My rodeo comment, btw, was merely to say that you know about those two posters, you know what they're like, having a little dig at them from time to time is fun - didn't mean for it to sound too combative.

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Originally posted by Smurph
The question is relevant.

You have spent 20ish pages saying you know how Death Seed Sentry fights, and you know what his best feats are, and based off those, you can objectively calculate his upper limits.

And now you are saying that you have never read any of Death Seed Sentry's appearances?

There are maybe a half dozen of them. You could have flipped through them in twenty minutes.

If I've seen all his feats and his fights then I have every right to say how he usually fights.
You are derailing the thread. If I'm wrong on anything then you can just post scans proving me wrong. No need to discuss irrelevant things

Originally posted by h1a8
The question then becomes, how tall is the battlefield?
Superman can't just fly in space and go sun dip. That's leaving the battlefield.
How high can you go before it is understood not the battlefield anymore?
What's the minimum space I [as Sentry] would need to spin in order to achieve [FT]L to bullrush with the pesky drag?

Originally posted by Philosophía
What's the minimum space I [as Sentry] would need to spin in order to achieve [FT]L to bullrush with the pesky drag?

The 0.5km battlefield should be big enough.

Originally posted by h1a8
The 0.5km battlefield should be big enough.
Awesome. It's a good thing I'd have even more than the starting distance, then, from horizon to horizon, just to be safe. So if I wanted to, as I'd be Sentry, I could hit at [FT]L, right?

Lol lol lol ..noone ever reads the comics always the scans 🤣

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Originally posted by Smurph

And now you are saying that you have never read any of Death Seed Sentry's appearances?

Why act all surprised?

That's been h1's whole m.o. since 2005.

He does the exact same thing in other threads and Movie Versus. It's not a secret, it's "basic knowledge", as our rules would say.