Saitama runs the marvel hardcore gauntlet

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
CIS is off. Plus, it's already been posted.

Ciss off is irrelevant.
Creativity, genius are not granted.
Characters still have to be able to think of tactics and have the propensity to do so AND most importantly, it be feasible to do/work

So how stupid do you think Sentry is?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So how stupid do you think Sentry is?

Stupid has nothing to with creativity, which is subjective in a way.
I'm pretty sure many are smarter than him and won't think of particular tactics, especially on human level looking characters that appears to be able to be finger flicked killed.

Originally posted by h1a8
Stupid has nothing to with creativity, which is subjective in a way.
I'm pretty sure many are smarter than him and won't think of particular tactics, especially on human level looking characters that appears to be able to be finger flicked killed.

Ok so his style of fighting?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Ok so his style of fighting?
I don't understand the question? No verb

Originally posted by h1a8
I don't understand the question? No verb

So are you talking about his style of fighting?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So are you talking about his style of fighting?

No, not at all. Isn't it clear to what I'm talking about?

Originally posted by h1a8
No, not at all. Isn't it clear to what I'm talking about?

No, not at all. You talk of tactics, which to me is referring to the style of fighting. By style I do not mean martial arts per se, but whether they prefer grappling or striking etc.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No, not at all. You talk of tactics, which to me is referring to the style of fighting. By style I do not mean martial arts per se, but whether they prefer grappling or striking etc.

I'm referring to coming up with elaborate tactics that involve more so creativity than choice between known options that will probably pop into a character's brain.

Originally posted by h1a8
I'm referring to coming up with elaborate tactics that involve more so creativity than choice between known options that will probably pop into a character's brain.

Flying at high speed to bullrush someone doesn't seem like elaborate tactics.....have you ever seen Sentry do this?

Originally posted by Philosophía
Interesting. Very interesting.

See, this is what I like, talking to people that think differently.

So if you'd use your flight slam into your opponent for maximum damage, and you'd know that in a straight line you wouldn't be able to make as much damage as you want, you wouldn't even think to build up speed, and just go straight into him anyway?

That's persistence. I like it.

Btw, I already mentioned this is not in relation to Saitama, it's just a hypothetical exercise.

plus this post which I don't think you saw

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Flying at high speed to bullrush someone doesn't seem like elaborate tactics.....have you ever seen Sentry do this?

Lmao
You didn't read any of my exchanges.
I agreed a long time ago that Sentry will bullrush straight on (starting from rest) at all his might.
That wasn't the elaborate tactic Phil was proposing.

I did. He asked that ok, if you knew that a straight line hit won't hurt, that you won't think to build up speed?

Or is your assertion that a straight line blitz, at full might, would INDEED be as powerful as if you tried building up speed first?

Don't think you read his post, tbh.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I did. He asked that ok, if you knew that a straight line hit won't hurt, that you won't think to build up speed?

Or is your assertion that a straight line blitz, at full might, would INDEED be as powerful as if you tried building up speed first?

of course, building up more speed first will resulting more power in the strike. But I'm not sure I'll think of an effective way to build speed (or if I'll ever think of doing that). It's not like Saitama is going to sit there like a statue. He might one punch ko me once I fail to hurt him. Or just evade my strike and one shot me. Or always in motion where I can never pick up on his location.

But to be honest, the question becomes how much speed can Sentry build and how does that translate into striking power other than kinetic energy. And would that amount be more than Saitama ever faced?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That's like postong Magneto grabbing Northstar out of the air.....and giving Magneto Northstar's feats.

What's Northstar's top feats?

What a horrible analogy. Saitama has super speed exactly like Flashy Flash but better. So, snything Flashy Flash can do speed wise Saitama can do but better.

Originally posted by h1a8
Ciss off is irrelevant.
Creativity, genius are not granted.
Characters still have to be able to think of tactics and have the propensity to do so AND most importantly, it be feasible to do/work

They don't have to have the propensity to do so. They can be dumb as a brick, but it wouldn't matter because CIS off means their personality and intelligence doesn't factor in unless it's prep. If it's feasible they're doing it.

Originally posted by h1a8
of course, building up more speed first will resulting more power in the strike. But I'm not sure I'll think of an effective way to build speed (or if I'll ever think of doing that). It's not like Saitama is going to sit there like a statue. He might one punch ko me once I fail to hurt him. Or just evade my strike and one shot me. Or always in motion where I can never pick up on his location.

But to be honest, the question becomes how much speed can Sentry build and how does that translate into striking power other than kinetic energy. And would that amount be more than Saitama ever faced?

Why would your failures of imagination apply to Sentry?

Originally posted by Classic NES
What a horrible analogy. Saitama has super speed exactly like Flashy Flash but better. So, snything Flashy Flash can do speed wise Saitama can do but better.

Yet when I ask for these better feats, all I get are pretty art and circular ABC logic.
Magneto also has superspeed, incidentally. Is it better than Northstar's? Well he's caught and beaten Northstar. Is Saitama's speed better than Flashy Flash's? Well he's caught and beaten Flashy Flash. Etc etc.

Originally posted by h1a8
Ciss off is irrelevant.
Creativity, genius are not granted.
Characters still have to be able to think of tactics and have the propensity to do so AND most importantly, it be feasible to do/work
Originally posted by h1a8
I'm referring to coming up with elaborate tactics that involve more so creativity than choice between known options that will probably pop into a character's brain.
have you even glanced at any of saitama's fights? because he's almost never portrayed as an "elaborate and creative genius" when it comes to his fighting tactics lol.

so if you're trying to defend him, you are going about it VERY wrong.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Why would your failures of imagination apply to Sentry?

Yet when I ask for these better feats, all I get are pretty art and circular ABC logic.
Magneto also has superspeed, incidentally. Is it better than Northstar's? Well he's caught and beaten Northstar. Is Saitama's speed better than Flashy Flash's? Well he's caught and beaten Flashy Flash. Etc etc.

You're getting emotional here. Magnetos Super Speed isn't comparable to Northstar and unless he caught him using super speed it's not applicable. Saitama is stated by Flashy Flash himself to be as fast as him. A>B>C logic works when comparing similar powers that vary in quantity.

Emotional? Lol. They're all fictional characters, no need to get emotional.

I'm merely pointing out your inconsistencies. You say Mags' superspeed isn't on Northstar's level - Ok. In short, they're of varying quantities - one is more than the other.

Then say ABC logic applies when comparing varying quantities. And yes, he used his speed to catch Northstar. Even laughs that he's no Quicksilver.